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Old 10-06-2010, 08:18 PM
 
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After a year of sucessfully avoiding it, I let down my guard and was caught by the Oak Ridge traffic cameras. 28 in a 20.

I'm going to pay it, but I think the cameras are a pox on Oak Ridge. I think, if the cameras show anything, is that the speed limit on the Oak Ridge Turnpike are a little silly for a four-lane, mostly straight road. They don't prevent accidents and they are sending over a million dollars out of Tennessee to a company in Arizona.
Saying "don't speed" is too simple of an answer to this problem.
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Old 10-07-2010, 01:37 PM
 
Location: Knoxville
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Where is it 20 on the Turnpike?
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Old 10-07-2010, 09:57 PM
 
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It was the school zone in front of the High School. I guess I didn't see the lights.
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Old 10-08-2010, 09:18 AM
 
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After a year of sucessfully avoiding it, I let down my guard and was caught by the Oak Ridge traffic cameras. 28 in a 20.

I'm going to pay it, but I think the cameras are a pox on Oak Ridge. I think, if the cameras show anything, is that the speed limit on the Oak Ridge Turnpike are a little silly for a four-lane, mostly straight road. They don't prevent accidents and they are sending over a million dollars out of Tennessee to a company in Arizona.
Saying "don't speed" is too simple of an answer to this problem.

I don't think the money goes to a company in Arizona. I lived in AZ and they said that a company in another country (I think it was Holland) was getting millions for sending out tickets to people in Phoenix. If that doesn't add insult to the whole situation that Americans aren't even allowed to mail out the tickets or keep the money in this country. Everything about it is corrupt. From what they said in AZ nothing happens to people who don't pay the fine as its actually illegal fee and doesn't go on drivers record and there is nobody that enforces it. I don't know if that's true but that's what the newspapers in AZ always said.

I really don't see how in Oak Ridge the cameras provide any benefit. I mean I personally know people who have taken to the side streets and know the route to avoid all cameras in the city. So now they race down the side streets super fast trying to make up for the longer route to avoid the cameras.
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Old 10-08-2010, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Knoxville
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Oh, school zone. OUCH!
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Old 10-08-2010, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Knoxville
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Just looked it up. Redflex is the company that runs/ran the red light cameras. They are an Australian company and the North American branch is located in AZ.
While they do make money off the tickets, and good portion does go to the local govt (City of Oak Ridge, KNoxville, etc".

The easiest way to keep them from getting our money is to: 1. Don't run red lights, and 2. Don't speed where there are cameras. The locations of all the cameras are all posted with big signs, so its not exactly some covert operation here.
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Old 11-19-2010, 12:19 PM
 
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I was just thinking about this today. Since its the owner of the car that gets the ticket whether they are driving or not, what happens if you share a car with family members? Or even worse if you leave car at the garage and its one of those kind of repairs where they need to test drive the car around--what if they drive it through a red light and you aren't even the one driving and you didn't even know the mechanic drove it??
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Old 11-19-2010, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Sevierville, TN
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I was just thinking about this today. Since its the owner of the car that gets the ticket whether they are driving or not, what happens if you share a car with family members? Or even worse if you leave car at the garage and its one of those kind of repairs where they need to test drive the car around--what if they drive it through a red light and you aren't even the one driving and you didn't even know the mechanic drove it??
That is an excellent question! I have always wondered that myself. I'm hoping someone will know the answer.

My guess is, and I think, but I am not sure, that it doesn't matter, the owner of the vehicle is responsible. If you own the vehicle then you must go to court and testify that you were not driving and provide the details of who was.

There has to be some sort of revised code to back this up, which wouldn't be readily available unless you are a attorney or have some sort of access to the actual documentation of the law itself.

I'm under the impression, as we had these issues in Ohio with red light cameras, that it doesn't matter if you were driving or not, as the owner you are responsible; however you can go to court and explain you weren't driving, your spouse or mechanic, etc., was driving. I believe if you provide the name and contact information you can get out of being charged and it falls to that particular individual. Of course, you could ask the person who committed the violation to pay you for what is owed and then just pay it.

I am curious, does this camera enforecment put points on your driving record though??
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Old 11-19-2010, 02:11 PM
 
Location: Knoxville
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As I understand it - no points.
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Old 11-19-2010, 03:50 PM
 
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As I understand it - no points.
Correct. No points because it is an administrative act.
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