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Old 01-02-2009, 12:34 PM
 
Location: 32°19'03.7"N 106°43'55.9"W
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Could this be the lowest price of gas in the country right now? It seemed like an optical illusion, when I drove by the Bradley gas station on El Paseo.

I guess since people were bashing Bush the last 3 years for the high prices, it's now time to give him some credit?
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Old 01-02-2009, 01:08 PM
 
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While it was like a deja vu moment seeing those low posted prices, this is a gas war/publicity thing for the new station on Valley. It will go away very soon, but it's fun while it lasts.
I, for one, didn't bash Bush for high gas prices, as there's plenty of other things to bash him about. He went to the Saudis and asked them to pretty please increase production in order to bring prices down and they told him "go away, little man, we like the prices where they are and there's plenty of supply in any case". This was true.
Despite the braying from the Repub/Rightwing pundits and radio talk people ("it's supply and demand...drill baby drill, etc.) there was no real shortage of crude or gasoline and the Saudis knew it. It was speculation...and, largely, not by shadowy figures pulling strings but by the oil companies and producers themselves to raise the tolerance level for prices at the pump and also to get more easily exploitable sources up for lease.
When energy prices rise again -and they certainly will- the American public will still think, as they do now, that 2.50 or 3 bucks a gallon is still cheap, because we've already been groomed to accept 4 bucks or more per gallon. The country will also tolerate more development of our oil supply by companies who will get sweet deals on leases and production. "Drill, baby, drill" is a corporate slogan, not energy policy.
While prices are as low as they are now, the US should slap fees on oil to raise the prices up to the point where people won't forget, as they did in the 70's, about conservation, which is a far more effective and much cheaper way to lower imported oil and keep supply high/prices low. You don't need 5 to 10 years of exploration and exploitation of oil resources to keep supply high...just use a few percentage points less nationally and the market will be flooded with oil, as it is right now.
Bush was never effective or independent enough to be able to do this. He's a born-and-bred oil company toady and takes his orders from those interests. I don't think that's exactly a secret.
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Old 01-03-2009, 03:54 PM
 
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Oh God... will you please keep your politics to yourself...
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Old 01-04-2009, 03:14 PM
 
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Oh God... will you please keep your politics to yourself...
God?...I usually go by Tecpatl, but you can refer to me as the deity of your choice . Huitzilopochtli works fine, too....
In this case, "God" says:
I guess you didn't read the first post that brought up Bush, fuel prices and criticism of him, did ya? That's what I was responding to, and my post was a lot more on target, threadwise, than your little prayer.
And have a nice day....
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Old 01-05-2009, 01:25 AM
 
Location: Albuquerque, NM
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The new "Murphy USA" station had it for $1.13 a few days ago!

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I guess since people were bashing Bush the last 3 years for the high prices, it's now time to give him some credit?
Well, when you consider that the crash in gas prices is due to the crash of the economy, I guess I could give him a little credit.

On another note, I remember when so many people blamed Bill Richardson for "high" gas prices of $1.30 or so when he was energy secretary. lol.
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Old 01-07-2009, 10:25 AM
 
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I see the price has moved up to 1.26 as of yesterday. Still gotta be one of the cheapest in the nation. That new station is still full of customers whenever I go by.
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Old 02-07-2009, 07:24 PM
 
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The Murphy gas price is back in line with all the other gas stations in town. Another Walmart-style maneuver - offer a duplicate product for an obscenely low price to attract everyone, then keep it just a bit lower than the competition, enough to force most of them out of business, and TADA! The market will be theirs. Watch them buy out every gas station in town except Chevron and then jack up their prices because they can.

There was plenty of public commentary about this on the Sun News forum. I personally saw the ridiculous line-up of cars the night they were offering the $1.18 gas and just laughed. People here must live lazy lives if they can afford to sit in their idling cars for an hour just to save seven bucks or so, one time. Genius!
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Old 02-09-2009, 05:10 AM
 
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Outside of some minor formula variations, there is no difference in gas whatever station or company you get it from.

The formula variations are requirements of various states and cities, and its a very stupid practice that drives up the price of gas. Since you cannot sell any gasoline with that particular formula anywhere else, it constricts distribution and takes any flexibility out of the system.
So if for example one area was for whatever reason using less, you cannot move the excess somewhere else that might be using more. AND this really hurt after Katrina since several of the refineries that had to shut down were making special mixes.
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