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Old 09-06-2010, 03:48 PM
 
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It doesn't make sense at all to move to a city that has a very high unemployment rate. I would only recommend coming here if you already had a job lined up or if you have savings. However, since you are so close you could always move back.
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Old 09-06-2010, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Tucson
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You would be insane to leave Phoenix at this time in the economy without having a job lined up.

Vegas is in a depression. I don't think people realize how bad it is. Met a couple last week where wife was supporting them as a veterinarian. She just got laid off last week. They are probably going to have to leave Vegas.

Phoenix has far better chances of you finding retail work than here in Vegas. The cost of living in California is nuts, especially Los Angeles or San Diego. I wouldn't think retail could support you in the standard you were used to in Phoenix. See if you can get something in Tucson, Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico and anywhere but here.
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Old 09-06-2010, 04:13 PM
 
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You would be insane to leave Phoenix at this time in the economy without having a job lined up.

Vegas is in a depression. I don't think people realize how bad it is. Met a couple last week where wife was supporting them as a veterinarian. She just got laid off last week. They are probably going to have to leave Vegas.

Phoenix has far better chances of you finding retail work than here in Vegas. The cost of living in California is nuts, especially Los Angeles or San Diego. I wouldn't think retail could support you in the standard you were used to in Phoenix. See if you can get something in Tucson, Arizona, Colorado, New Mexico and anywhere but here.
You are correct on the cost of living in California, otherwise this post is completely false and full of bad advice. Please explain how my new 23 year old roommate moved from Ohio and got a job telemarketing THE SAME DAY? He did not want that job, so he went to Fashion Show Mall the next day got and hired for a job selling sunglasses paying minimum wage plus commission which equals $13+ an hour. All those places you recommended are even worse hellholes than Phoenix so please stop.
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Old 09-06-2010, 04:14 PM
 
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I was born and lived in Phoenix for 30 years. Phoenix is an absolute hellhole so Vegas would definitely be a big improvement. I posted this before, but my new roommate just got a job in Fashion Show Mall right after he moved here. It is basically a $13 an hour job selling sunglasses. This was only a month ago so if you are a go getter you will be just fine.
hey lvd, did you apply for this job? it would be a monetary improvement for you!
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Old 09-06-2010, 04:22 PM
 
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hey lvd, did you apply for this job? it would be a monetary improvement for you!
You are correct, but...No, I have a job where I sit at a desk playing on the internet all night by myself. That is the way I like it. I have always admitted that I am lazy, and I do not like authority, so standing on my feet 8 hours a day dealing with people is not my thing, even for twice my salary. I have said to others if you are a go getter you will make it in Vegas. I am NOT a go getter, but I know plenty of people who are. The failures who can't get a job are lazy just like me. How's that for honesty as most people would not admit it.
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Old 09-06-2010, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Tucson
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You are correct on the cost of living in California, otherwise this post is completely false and full of bad advice. Please explain how my new 23 year old roommate moved from Ohio and got a job telemarketing THE SAME DAY? He did not want that job, so he went to Fashion Show Mall the next day got and hired for a job selling sunglasses paying minimum wage plus commission which equals $13+ an hour. All those places you recommended are even worse hellholes than Phoenix so please stop.
I'm glad to hear someone is getting jobs. It is depressing to keep hearing all the people getting laid off and not being able to find a job. When I do hear these anecdotal employment stories it is usually about people under the age of 40.

I know one very honest individual who can't get someone to hire him for $8/hour because he is WAY over qualified and they are afraid he will leave or steal their job. Unfortunately his values are working against him because he refuses to lie. His business went under, then he started working for someone else and got laid off. His unemployment ran out last year. He has gotten some temp work, but nothing regular. He has even hung out at Home Depot to pick up some work. He isn't afraid to work temp assignments or manual labor and that is probably the only reason he may find something soon.

Tucson, AZ is not a hell hole! It is nothing like Phoenix or Vegas. I have friends in Colorado Springs that would argue that isn't a hell hole either. To each his own.

I highly suggest people do research, know a place before you go and have a clue about the jobs in the market.
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Old 09-06-2010, 05:05 PM
 
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I'm glad to hear someone is getting jobs. It is depressing to keep hearing all the people getting laid off and not being able to find a job. When I do hear these anecdotal employment stories it is usually about people under the age of 40.

I know one very honest individual who can't get someone to hire him for $8/hour because he is WAY over qualified and they are afraid he will leave or steal their job. Unfortunately his values are working against him because he refuses to lie. His business went under, then he started working for someone else and got laid off. His unemployment ran out last year. He has gotten some temp work, but nothing regular. He has even hung out at Home Depot to pick up some work. He isn't afraid to work temp assignments or manual labor and that is probably the only reason he may find something soon.

Tucson, AZ is not a hell hole! It is nothing like Phoenix or Vegas. I have friends in Colorado Springs that would argue that isn't a hell hole either. To each his own.

I highly suggest people do research, know a place before you go and have a clue about the jobs in the market.
You forget I was born in Phoenix, and I have been in Tucson many times. Tucson is a much worse hell hole than Phoenix as it is much closer to the border AND is even smaller and more boring with less to do. Colorado is freezing cold with snow so that is why I hate it there. As far as your friend, you have admitted his values have prevented him from getting a job which makes it HIS fault he is unemployed. It is his "values" that will eventually make him homeless, NOT the job market.
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Old 09-06-2010, 05:16 PM
 
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Unemployment is bad in California, Nevada and Arizona, but since Las Vegas has the worst unemployment of all, it doesn't seem to make sense to move to Las Vegas in search of a job.
I'm not moving to Las Vegas unless I have a local job, pay cash for a condo or finance such a small mortgage that I and can afford to move and pay expenses with my other income without finding a job.
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Old 09-06-2010, 05:26 PM
 
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Unfortunately his values are working against him because he refuses to lie.

In the short term lying may get you a few extra bucks. In the long term, you will likely not only be discovered but you will have sacrificed your integrity and thinking. If you ask me, a worker with integrity is actually a gem nowadays. I won't argue that there are people getting positions based on lies but it always catches up in one form or another. I remember the second job I ever got. I put down that I was late over 20 times in the past year. The hiring manager told me the computer told him not to hire me but he did so anyway. I recently saw a special about the New Orleans Police Department. They are now operating on a 1 lie and you're fired policy.
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Old 09-06-2010, 05:48 PM
 
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In the short term lying may get you a few extra bucks. In the long term, you will likely not only be discovered but you will have sacrificed your integrity and thinking. If you ask me, a worker with integrity is actually a gem nowadays. I won't argue that there are people getting positions based on lies but it always catches up in one form or another. I remember the second job I ever got. I put down that I was late over 20 times in the past year. The hiring manager told me the computer told him not to hire me but he did so anyway. I recently saw a special about the New Orleans Police Department. They are now operating on a 1 lie and you're fired policy.
That is not true either. I have had my current job for 4 years. The ad for my job in the LVRJ paper said you can not have any criminal record. I lied and said I was totally clean. I am pretty much am, but in 1995 I was arrested for a class 4 felony burglary charge back in Phoenix. I accepted a plea bargain to lower it down to a misdemeanor so I thought it was pretty much forgotten since even my nursing assistant jobs never found it. My company did an extensive background check, and after six months they did find it. They told me since I have been a very reliable worker who has never called in sick, late etc I could keep my job. However, they told me I would be the first suspect if anything was ever stolen from my client. Of course, I am not a thief, and the place I am at is under 24 hour camera surveillance so I never worried about it. Regardless, I asked if I had put that down would I have still been hired. My boss said absolutely not.
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