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Old 09-08-2010, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Macao
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Why is this bad? If players think they are like the pros on TV and play in a low limit game one should be able to take their money very easily. The guys who try to make fancy plays at the no limit table look great until they run into the one hand that beats them out of several hundred dollars by the guy who just plays a tight game and gets a big hand.
I'll never forget one day at Binions...a guy with sunglasses on a LIMIT holdem table...he raised or re-raised nearly EVERY time it was his turn to fold, check or bet. Then on the RIVER, if he didn't hit whatever straight, flush or overpair he had that he was going for, he would quickly MUCK his cards out-of-turn.

I have never seen anyone go through more money so quickly ever in my life at a very low stake limit holdem table before.

Sunglasses helps identify these people!
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Old 09-08-2010, 10:09 PM
 
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Ive been dealing in washington for 6 yrs and in this state the casinos that pool tokes let poker keep theit own generally. In vegas does poker pool with the rest of the pit (bj, dice, roulette etc.)? I also have an in at the venetian but the job wont be available for awhile. From my xp I have made the most money on 4-8 limit and I know bellagio rarely spreads it. Thanks for the help peeps
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Old 09-08-2010, 10:14 PM
 
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I know a few dealers and I don't ever really remember a comment about the company or the bosses. Dealers' happiness and well being is all about the players in the room. The dealers I know say the best places to work are usually the locals joints as long as they can keep the games going. As you will find almost everywhere, the worst games to work in are in the mid to high stakes. In this regard Bellagio probably won't make you so happy since they dominate in these stakes.
Do any of the "local" rooms let dealers keep their own tokes that u know of?
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Old 09-08-2010, 11:40 PM
 
Location: The North
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I don't know of any pooling anywhere for poker dealers. And I have played and known dealers in 7 states. Poker dealers only have to take care of the floor people, not each other. Good dealers make almost double bad dealers just by being fast and keeping control of the game.
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Old 09-09-2010, 12:50 AM
 
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Ive been dealing in washington for 6 yrs and in this state the casinos that pool tokes let poker keep theit own generally. In vegas does poker pool with the rest of the pit (bj, dice, roulette etc.)? I also have an in at the venetian but the job wont be available for awhile. From my xp I have made the most money on 4-8 limit and I know bellagio rarely spreads it. Thanks for the help peeps
I have a few friends who are dealers & most places around let dealers keep their own tips; pooling seems to be the exception in Las Vegas.

Explore your connection at the Venetian when you can. A high-end job at the Wynn or dealing the biggest games at Bellagio might be more attractive, otherwise my guess is Venetian will be your best bet. I wouldn't be surprised if 4-8 limit & 1-2 NL are some of the most attractive games for dealer tipping. (Provided you can run a table well & get out lots of hands, which I'm guessing is the case ...)

Although income can be all over the map, some of the dealers I know have suggested you can clear $30/hr in tips in the right room when it's busy. Some of the smaller rooms will be lower. The flip side to that is I've heard about dealers at the Wynn (& likely Bellagio, as well) making six figures. Certainly not a bad profession if you're competent.
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Old 09-09-2010, 03:14 AM
 
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I know how to make money. People who dont know how to hustle and make money dont last as long as I have in this industry. I really appreciate the feedback guys. My main concern is making a big move to a job I thougt I would like and then find out its a bad company or bad location etc.
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Old 09-09-2010, 10:50 PM
 
Location: The North
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I have a few friends who are dealers & most places around let dealers keep their own tips; pooling seems to be the exception in Las Vegas.

Explore your connection at the Venetian when you can. A high-end job at the Wynn or dealing the biggest games at Bellagio might be more attractive, otherwise my guess is Venetian will be your best bet. I wouldn't be surprised if 4-8 limit & 1-2 NL are some of the most attractive games for dealer tipping. (Provided you can run a table well & get out lots of hands, which I'm guessing is the case ...)

Although income can be all over the map, some of the dealers I know have suggested you can clear $30/hr in tips in the right room when it's busy. Some of the smaller rooms will be lower. The flip side to that is I've heard about dealers at the Wynn (& likely Bellagio, as well) making six figures. Certainly not a bad profession if you're competent.
Its more like $40-45/hr on weekends at the best locations, but it probably averages to a bit about $30 with slower weekday shifts. The one thing is the smaller rooms are often the best paying rooms for dealers. Almost without fail they make more from the lowest limit game in the room than the highest so all these sorry looking operations with mostly open tables actually have some pretty happy dealers making good cash.

Also the hours are all over the map, the Vegas rooms are very aggressive about sending people home early. Kind of amazing when you think about it, pass on making $100+ an hour in rake to save paying a minimum wage dealer or two, but the floor often gets kudos for cutting people costs without the suits upstairs realizing they let a list of 15 people linger around because they sent dealers home early. Then again the floor isn't getting a percentage of the room's take so they have a perverse incentive to keep the number of tables down up until the point it pisses off the waiting players.
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Old 09-10-2010, 02:15 AM
 
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It is extremely difficult to find steady work in poker. Even if you get hired at the Bellagio you won't get enough hours or days to make a living. A lot of poker dealers have 2 jobs and by the way there is no such thing as getting a full time job. Keep that in mind if you decide to move out here, personally I think it's a colossial mistake.
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Old 09-10-2010, 06:59 PM
 
Location: The North
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Everyone I have known dealers a normal work schedule for a dealer is 4 days, not 5. I dealt many years ago in California for about 6 months while I was between jobs, its nowhere near as easy as it seems, but its definitely better money than most think. I got 3 days to start and got to 4 days by picking up shifts from all the degenerate dealers. A few weeks I did 5, which management frowned upon, but when you need a dealer you can't be picky. Just get known as a guy who wants work and those 2 or 3 shifts you get scheduled for easily turn into 4 or 5. Of course many are lousy shifts, but even in the worst shift you'll make $20/hour for at least 4 or 5 hours. In other words if you show up to work you should almost always make at least $100/day, most of it in cash, and I don't think too many can complain about that.
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Old 09-13-2010, 10:29 PM
 
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Most rooms have other games if requested. Excalabur had 7 card stud.

Stud at the Excalibur? Not since the 90's. You know you are dating yourself.

I won't ever admit to gambling. If I did, I would now prefer to play Stud on the computer: It is easier to see all the hands of table on the computer screen. (Very important for proper play in Stud.)

The Excalibur's old Poker room, although it could have very poor lighting, was a very friendly place to play. The players were a strange mix of tight locals, sharp regulars, and drunk tourists. Some of the older ladies were excellent, but they would eat their own children if needed. It was a nice place to learn to play Poker.

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