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Old 10-08-2011, 10:08 PM
 
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There is an entire section dedicated to that area. Actually 2 areas if you count the employment section. I get a headache every time I go in there.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/polit...controversies/
http://www.city-data.com/forum/work-employment/
Those sections are a giant waste of time as far as I'm concerned. What I expressed here is about as far as I ever wish to have political debates. As I mentioned earlier, the problem is greed. Greed from top to bottom. From the guy approaching you for money in the parking lot who would spit on you if you gave him some food instead all the way up to the CEO flying in his private jet. We're all to blame and until we decide to forge a new way of living and be a better example we're just blowing hot air. Things aren't right and we all need to take a good look in the mirror.
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Old 10-08-2011, 10:40 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Those sections are a giant waste of time as far as I'm concerned. What I expressed here is about as far as I ever wish to have political debates. As I mentioned earlier, the problem is greed. Greed from top to bottom. From the guy approaching you for money in the parking lot who would spit on you if you gave him some food instead all the way up to the CEO flying in his private jet. We're all to blame and until we decide to forge a new way of living and be a better example we're just blowing hot air. Things aren't right and we all need to take a good look in the mirror.

This is the truth.

The pissing contest we're all involved in, isn't going to solve a damn thing.

Great post.
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Old 10-09-2011, 01:45 AM
 
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Those sections are a giant waste of time as far as I'm concerned. What I expressed here is about as far as I ever wish to have political debates. As I mentioned earlier, the problem is greed. Greed from top to bottom. From the guy approaching you for money in the parking lot who would spit on you if you gave him some food instead all the way up to the CEO flying in his private jet. We're all to blame and until we decide to forge a new way of living and be a better example we're just blowing hot air. Things aren't right and we all need to take a good look in the mirror.
No one is going to do this unless they are forced to.
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Old 10-09-2011, 02:45 AM
 
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No one is going to do this unless they are forced to.
You might be surprised.
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Old 10-09-2011, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Sunrise
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No one is going to do this unless they are forced to.
Nobody's forcing me. I think I've got plenty of "Utopian New World cred" built up -- I grow a lot of my food, don't buy gasoline, manage to spend less than $1,000 per year on electricity, make as much of my stuff as possible (furniture, and the like), buy stuff as local as possible, compost, recycle (I rarely have anything in the trash can on collection day), and on and on.

I don't do it to feel smug, or rub it in people's faces. I do it mostly because I think it's a better way to live. And I also save a LOT of money living life the way I do.

The trade off is there isn't much time for TV, or video games, or other timewasters. And I'm usually sore at the end of the day. Hell, I'm usually sore at the middle of the day these days.
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:19 AM
 
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Nobody's forcing me. I think I've got plenty of "Utopian New World cred" built up -- I grow a lot of my food, don't buy gasoline, manage to spend less than $1,000 per year on electricity, make as much of my stuff as possible (furniture, and the like), buy stuff as local as possible, compost, recycle (I rarely have anything in the trash can on collection day), and on and on.

I don't do it to feel smug, or rub it in people's faces. I do it mostly because I think it's a better way to live. And I also save a LOT of money living life the way I do.

The trade off is there isn't much time for TV, or video games, or other timewasters. And I'm usually sore at the end of the day. Hell, I'm usually sore at the middle of the day these days.
What are some of your tips for getting by without gasoline? Propane? Wind power? Solar?

Do you own a car? Kids?
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Old 10-09-2011, 11:20 AM
 
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Nobody's forcing me. I think I've got plenty of "Utopian New World cred" built up -- I grow a lot of my food, don't buy gasoline, manage to spend less than $1,000 per year on electricity, make as much of my stuff as possible (furniture, and the like), buy stuff as local as possible, compost, recycle (I rarely have anything in the trash can on collection day), and on and on.

I don't do it to feel smug, or rub it in people's faces. I do it mostly because I think it's a better way to live. And I also save a LOT of money living life the way I do.

The trade off is there isn't much time for TV, or video games, or other timewasters. And I'm usually sore at the end of the day. Hell, I'm usually sore at the middle of the day these days.
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What are some of your tips for getting by without gasoline? Propane? Wind power? Solar?

Do you own a car? Kids?
I have got to ask the same question on not buying gasoline. That could only mean 3 things. You either bike, take the buss, or drive a diesel car/truck that runs on veggie oil.
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Old 10-09-2011, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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I think Scoop has a CNG (compressed natural gas) F150 truck. I really think its the way to go in the future because natural gas is abundant and you do not have to take it to a refinery like oil-gasoline. You can also fill you car or truck in your garage using a device that taps into your home gas line (if you have a gas hookup). Honda has been making a GX model since the 90s. You can also buy CNG converted fords like the F150 and Crown Vic. I think most of the city buses in LV are CNG vehicles.
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Old 10-09-2011, 11:46 AM
 
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I have got to ask the same question on not buying gasoline. That could only mean 3 things. You either bike, take the buss, or drive a diesel car/truck that runs on veggie oil.
Don't forget water. The technology to make cars that run on nothing but water has been here for years.
JAPANESE WATER POWERED CAR!! - YouTube
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Old 10-09-2011, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Those sections are a giant waste of time as far as I'm concerned. What I expressed here is about as far as I ever wish to have political debates. As I mentioned earlier, the problem is greed. Greed from top to bottom. From the guy approaching you for money in the parking lot who would spit on you if you gave him some food instead all the way up to the CEO flying in his private jet. We're all to blame and until we decide to forge a new way of living and be a better example we're just blowing hot air. Things aren't right and we all need to take a good look in the mirror.
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Nobody's forcing me. I think I've got plenty of "Utopian New World cred" built up -- I grow a lot of my food, don't buy gasoline, manage to spend less than $1,000 per year on electricity, make as much of my stuff as possible (furniture, and the like), buy stuff as local as possible, compost, recycle (I rarely have anything in the trash can on collection day), and on and on.

I don't do it to feel smug, or rub it in people's faces. I do it mostly because I think it's a better way to live. And I also save a LOT of money living life the way I do.

The trade off is there isn't much time for TV, or video games, or other timewasters. And I'm usually sore at the end of the day. Hell, I'm usually sore at the middle of the day these days.
These 2 posts are very similar....in mentality

The entire US should be thinking this way.

We can create jobs, decrease debt, have better schools and health care, with some basic changes.

No more dependence on foreign oil.....and eventually no oil all together.
Do away with NAFTA, and other "no tariff" laws.
Invest in REAL clean energy projects (No such thing as clean coal)....


Its possible to do....but not with the 2 party pissing contest we have going on right now.
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