03-28-2011, 06:00 PM
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It depends what other states do. If Florida gets full blown gambling, all bets are off, you can kiss Vegas goodbye.
Everytime a four table 100 machine casino opens somewhere in tribal land.The same comment is made everytime.
03-28-2011, 07:55 PM
Location: Beautiful Upstate NY!
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Floriduh cant even figure out how to vote for a president let alone regulate Gaming
How's your chad hanging, dyn?
03-28-2011, 08:02 PM
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03-28-2011, 09:56 PM
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It depends what other states do. If Florida gets full blown gambling, all bets are off, you can kiss Vegas goodbye.
The Las Vegas strip has taken decades to build and Billions of dollars to construct. Many states have legalized gambling (casinos) but no other state has anything like the Las Vegas strip. Given the current state of the economy no developer anywhere is going to spend the Billions of dollars anytime soon required to even come close to replicating the Las Vegas strip, especially considering gaming revenues are at historic low's.
Couple that with it's proximity to LA, making it a very attractive weekend destination for LA residents (and especially headliners who can take fly in on a private jet in less than an hour, do a weekend show, make some quick $$$ and be back home to LA in another hour) and you have a durable competitive advantage that will not be replicated anytime soon.
Las Vegas is the original. Las Vegas has decades of "brand recognition" driving it. The vegas strip is driven by much more than just gamblers. Many non gamblers travel to Las Vegas to "see the strip", take in the shows, etc.
Las Vegas is to gaming and entertainment what Coca Cola is to Soda, McDonalds is to fast food, Budweiser is to beer and Microsoft is to operating systems. It's something that cannot be replicated with mere money. And even if it could, it would not happen in this economy anytime soon.
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Good points about how insignificant competition has proven. If you watch Lakers games they have lots of ads for "big time entertainment just 67 miles from Staples Center" which is for San Manuel casino. Within 90 miles there are a plethora of Vegas-style casinos. Sure there are no dice or sports books, but for the most part the same thing most people want to play. Yet Vegas seems more popular with So Cal than ever. Phoenix area is an even better example, there are eight major casinos within 45 minutes drive of Downtown and they are as ubiquitous in advertising as lawyers are in Vegas. Yet everyone I know in Phoenix is up in Vegas at least 2 or 3 times a year.
03-29-2011, 01:38 AM
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all that these other venues do is to expose more people to casino gaming that have never been to vegas.....then they want to come here to see how "It's REALLY done"....
03-29-2011, 07:27 AM
Location: Tampa, FL
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Yep, I heard the same thing when they put gaming into the "Sewer by the Sea" [Atlantic City]
Unlike the sewer by the sea, Florida has more going for it than AC or Vegas. You would be ignorant to think otherwise. Look at how Pennsylvania allowing gambling has affected AC.
You are right about the voting thing though, lol
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The Las Vegas strip has taken decades to build and Billions of dollars to construct. Many states have legalized gambling (casinos) but no other state has anything like the Las Vegas strip. Given the current state of the economy no developer anywhere is going to spend the Billions of dollars anytime soon required to even come close to replicating the Las Vegas strip, especially considering gaming revenues are at historic low's.
And how much of that which took "decades to build" was imploded and rebuilt in the last 10-15 years? Pretty much any property making money has been built since the mid 90's. Look at the decades old places like the Sahara (closing), Riviera (next), Circus Circus and some of the older places like Flamingo and Tropicana just hanging on.
03-29-2011, 07:38 AM
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Also just name the buildings in progress that have just stopped like Echelon
03-29-2011, 07:58 AM
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And how much of that which took "decades to build" was imploded and rebuilt in the last 10-15 years? Pretty much any property making money has been built since the mid 90's. Look at the decades old places like the Sahara (closing), Riviera (next), Circus Circus and some of the older places like Flamingo and Tropicana just hanging on.
It's not the buildings that took decades to build it's the reputation, the image. There is much more at play than the simple bricks and mortar aspect of the Las Vegas strip. When people think "gaming" "entertainment" they think Vegas. Stop 10 people on the street anywhere in the country and ask them to name the number 1 destination for gambling in the US. I bet every one would say "Las Vegas". That image, that competitive advantage, is what took decades to build. Becoming the leader in an entire industry takes years (often times decades) to build. As in my last example even if you had billions of dollars to build the brand image of your product you could not come close to replicating the brand image of the most established companies in their given field like Coca Cola, McDonalds, or the "Las Vegas Strip".
The billion dollar cost to build a casino that would come close to competing with a proper, modern Las Vegas Casino is another aspect of the competitive advantage that Las Vegas holds over any other gaming destination in the country.
True, most of the modern Casino's have been build in the last 20 years (in the 90's, when the economy was much stronger than it is today). The fact that developers are willing to tear down the old casino's and spend hundreds of millions or even billions to build new casino's in the same location only solidifies my point - sure, they could go somewhere else where land is cheap but, they build in Vegas to "cash in" on the fact that Las Vegas is THE gaming destination of the US.
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House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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