[Bennysmom]

Under Frequently asked questions,
I didn't realize they did not have it spelled out under the code, but they do enforce this.

Pet Dog Fancier Permit The Pet Dog Fancier Permit allows any residence to have up to six dogs, over 12 months of age, provided that any dog which is not spayed or neutered is currently engaged in dog shows, or field trials.

Pet Cat Fancier Permit The Pet Cat Fancier Permit allows any residence to have up to 12 cats over eight months of age, provided that any cat which is not spayed or neutered is currently engaged in cat shows.

[olecapt]

Originally Posted by Bennysmom

Under Frequently asked questions,
I didn't realize they did not have it spelled out under the code, but they do enforce this.

Pet Dog Fancier Permit The Pet Dog Fancier Permit allows any residence to have up to six dogs, over 12 months of age, provided that any dog which is not spayed or neutered is currently engaged in dog shows, or field trials.

Pet Cat Fancier Permit The Pet Cat Fancier Permit allows any residence to have up to 12 cats over eight months of age, provided that any cat which is not spayed or neutered is currently engaged in cat shows.

I have queried Clark County as to the correct code. Should get an answer in a couple of days. Normally the code controls but sometimes there is a general permission to make rules that can over-ride. The County would lose in court though if the situation is as it appears.

[Bennysmom]

Originally Posted by olecapt

I have queried Clark County as to the correct code. Should get an answer in a couple of days. Normally the code controls but sometimes there is a general permission to make rules that can over-ride. The County would lose in court though if the situation is as it appears.

Yes, I agree, the County would lose in court the way it is written.

Unfortunately I know each one of the County Animal Control Officers, and have not met one that will "give in" and allow an unaltered dog on ones property, with a fanciers permit without proof of showing. Now if a person wanted to take them to court, that is an entirely different story.

I have an appointment with Animal Control tomorrow, so I will bring this up.
It has already been brought up at our Animal Advisory meetings.

[olecapt]

Here is the input from Clark County.

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The FAQ is a combination of two laws to make the application easier for the citizen to understand:
10.04.246 Pet dog fancier.

“Pet dog fancier” means any person owning, keeping or possessing on his property, at one location, safely confined in a completely enclosed building, residence or enclosed lot, up to six dogs older than one year of age for the purpose of showing in dog shows, field trials or obedience trials, for working and hunting, or up to six spayed or neutered dogs, or any combination of the two. (Ord. 2088 § 10, 1998)

and

10.08.160 Pet dog, pet cat fancier’s permit.

A pet fancier may keep and maintain on his property not more than six dogs over one year of age and/or twelve cats over eight months of age, provided that each unsterilized animal has a microchip identification device installed and the microchip number has been provided to animal control, and the pet fancier obtains from the animal regulation officer the appropriate pet fancier’s permit and pays the annual service charge of twenty-five dollars per permit for inspection of the premises by the animal regulation officer. (Ord. 3318 § 4, 2005; Ord. 2088 § 25, 1998: Ord. 1107 § 15, 1988)

Thanks

Joe Boteilho, Chief of Code Enforcement
2901 East Sunset Road
Las Vegas, Nevada 89120
(702) (702)

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Note that the restrictive one is a definition. Not clear that constitutes a "law". I would also note that the terminology is different. "pet fancier" versus "pet dog fancier". Normal I would not note such a difference..but this is a formal legal definition.

I don't think they have a leg to stand on....

What I would suspect went on here is Animal Control did a sneak revision to the law by creating or revision a definition. Then it was loaded in the consent calendar with dozen of other routine stuff. That way they get no guff from the animal people...particularly the rural ones who can be very persuasive to the County Commission.

I would however note that they got it wrong and I would simply send them the required chip identifiers and the $25 fee by registered mail. I would expect at that point the issue would go away.

[Bennysmom]

HMMM, very interesting the way Joe put this. I do understand one is only a definition, which to me would make it more confusing for people to understand what the correct law is, instead of easier.

I do know that they will not accept you mailing the $25.00 fee. You have to make an appointment once a year, and they send an AC Officer to your house. They check microchip numbers, rabies certificates, and if unaltered require a show catalog with proof that your dog was entered in a recent dog show. After that is all done, then they give you your new permit.


So, I wonder what would happen, if one would argue the case with them, and point out that they do not have it written correctly?

The person I know that had the complaint, AC gave her 30 days to have all her dogs snipped, or provide proof of showing or she needs to get rid of enough dogs to bring her limit down to the legal 3.

[olecapt]

Originally Posted by Bennysmom

HMMM, very interesting the way Joe put this. I do understand one is only a definition, which to me would make it more confusing for people to understand what the correct law is, instead of easier.

I do know that they will not accept you mailing the $25.00 fee. You have to make an appointment once a year, and they send an AC Officer to your house. They check microchip numbers, rabies certificates, and if unaltered require a show catalog with proof that your dog was entered in a recent dog show. After that is all done, then they give you your new permit.


So, I wonder what would happen, if one would argue the case with them, and point out that they do not have it written correctly?

The person I know that had the complaint, AC gave her 30 days to have all her dogs snipped, or provide proof of showing or she needs to get rid of enough dogs to bring her limit down to the legal 3.

Actually note the language. Show is not the only way. Give them a note that your puppy hunts or works.

[Bennysmom]

Originally Posted by olecapt

Actually note the language. Show is not the only way. Give them a note that your puppy hunts or works.

Either way, they have always required proof by the dogs name entered in a show catalog.

I have never had an issue because I do show in Obedience, Agility, Flyball and Conformation, and travel out of town quite a bit, with many catalogs for proof.

But, for others, like the person I mentioned earlier, it would be interesting to bring this all up to her, and have her debate it with Animal Control and see what the end result would be. She isn't really a friend, but used to be a neighbor, and we ran in to her at the grocery store where she works, where she had told us her recent experience with her animal control complaint, and asked us what we do in order to have a fanciers permit. She did not realize we actually do show our dogs.
I am sure I will find out from her the next time we see her, what the outcome is.