[dynimagelv]

Originally Posted by olecapt

OK -

Illinois state senator Bruce A. Farley sentenced to 18 months in prison for mail fraud. 1999.
Illinois state senator John A. D’Arco Jr. served about 3 years in prison for bribery and extortion. 1995.
Illinois Chicago alderman Larence S. Bloom sentenced to 6 months in 1999 for filing a false tax return.
Illinois Chicago alderman Jesse J. Evans sentenced to 41 months in prison in 1997 for racketeering, extortion, conspiracy, attempted extortion, mail fraud, influence peddling, filing false tax returns, and obstruction of justice.
Illinois Chicago alderman Virgil E. Jones Jr. in 1999 was sentenced to 2 and a half years in prison for extortion.
Illinois Chicago alderman Joseph A. Martínez in 1998 pleaded guilty to ghost payrolling and was sentenced to 5 months in prison.
Illinois Chicago alderman Ambrosio Medrano pleaded guilty to extortion in 1996 and was sentenced to 30 months in prison.
Illinois Chicago alderman Allan J. Streeter pleaded guilty to extortion and was sentenced to prison in 1998.
Illinois Chicago alderman Fred B. Roti was sentenced to 48 months in 1993 for racketeering, conspiracy, bribery, among other things.
Illinois Chicago judge Thomas J. Maloney Jr. sentenced to almost 16 years in prison for taking bribes in 1994.
Illinois Chicago treasurer Edward Rosewell pleaded guilty to mail fraud but was not sentenced due to an illness that he died from soon after. His conviction was vacated in 1999.

Not to mention the City of Brotherly love [and I happen to LOVE it as a city]

[guinnessjim]

Originally Posted by sheriff

No, you move. No, you move.

ok, i will move. ok, i will move.

i thought that was clear from all my posts stating i was moving to LV...but thank you for your blessings!

**just in case you forgot, your original statement was "No, you leave. No, you leave."

[olecapt]

Sure...it continues...Chicago corruption makes Las Vegas look like a tea party...

Illinois Chicago alderman Percy Giles sentenced to 3 years in prison for racketeering, extortion, among other things in 2000.
Illinois Chicago alderman Arenda Troutman was arrested and charged with bribery in 2007.

[sheriff]

Originally Posted by olecapt

Sure...it continues...Chicago corruption makes Las Vegas look like a tea party...

Illinois Chicago alderman Percy Giles sentenced to 3 years in prison for racketeering, extortion, among other things in 2000.
Illinois Chicago alderman Arenda Troutman was arrested and charged with bribery in 2007.

OK, that's 2 out of 50 wards. Very clean politics compared to the cesspool.

[olecapt]

You certainly will never be accused of losing gracefully will you...

[sheriff]

Originally Posted by olecapt

You certainly will never be accused of losing gracefully will you...

Explain to us all how Morgan Quinto's methodology is flawed. And you come up with 2, yes 2, yes 2 corrupt potiticians in Chicago out of 50 wards, and you claim that is worse than the cesspool. Hey, I got an idea---why doesn't someone build a 20,000 seat arena at Flamingo and Koval.

[Buzz123]

Originally Posted by cjski21

Wyoming is a pretty state. The beauty is skin deep however. Recreation that I like to do (atv's and 4 wheeling) is very limited due to the MASSIVE homesteads that surround ALL the public land it seems. I have to drive all the way across the state or to Colorado to ride my dirtbike or to find a decent trail for the Jeep. The farmers and ranchers run our politicians and our state. I have way too many gripes about this state to put here. I like the state, but the lack of people is just something I cannot get used to.

All states have their problems. Nobody will ever get away form it. Sometimes we need to just grin and bear it.

That's what many people in Nevada have been fighting for years and years. I don't mind that 83% of the state is BLM land and open range. I'd hate to see the handful of ranchers in this state fence us all out like they have elsewhere. It's already sickening to see that 16,000 homes and a casino will be constructed at the Kyle Canyon Road, and that thousands already have surrounded and completely ruined Tule Springs. Our open land should stay that way...open.

[guinnessjim]

Originally Posted by Buzz123

That's what many people in Nevada have been fighting for years and years. I don't mind that 83% of the state is BLM land and open range. I'd hate to see the handful of ranchers in this state fence us all out like they have elsewhere. It's already sickening to see that 16,000 homes and a casino will be constructed at the Kyle Canyon Road, and that thousands already have surrounded and completely ruined Tule Springs. Our open land should stay that way...open.

i agree completely...to toss out another abbey quote "growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell". too many western treasures have been spoiled by the sprawl.

maybe heyduke will show up and pull out a few stakes...

[verynicebecky]

yeah, i kinda know what u mean, cj and buzz. when i left lv for rural ok i just hated it. hated rural ok for the lack of convienences. took me 8 yr to grow to like it. when i first moved out to there (1989, Laverne, OK) i would pass huge pastures of wheat and alfalfa and think, "in 10 yrs this will be gone. sold and homes built onto it." I am so glad that i was wrong about that. I would never want to go back there (weather reasons) but it is nice to know that it still exists.

[guinnessjim]

Originally Posted by sheriff

Explain to us all how Morgan Quinto's methodology is flawed. And you come up with 2, yes 2, yes 2 corrupt potiticians in Chicago out of 50 wards, and you claim that is worse than the cesspool. Hey, I got an idea---why doesn't someone build a 20,000 seat arena at Flamingo and Koval.

explanation of flawed methodology (taken from the Morgan Quinto press site):

Morgan Quitno’s annual rankings of crime in states, metro areas and cities are considered by some in the law enforcement community as controversial.

The FBI, police and many criminologists caution against rankings according to crime rates. They correctly point out that crime levels are affected by many different factors, such as population density, composition of the population (particularly the concentration of youth), climate, economic conditions, strength of local law enforcement agencies, citizen’s attitudes toward crime, cultural factors, education levels, crime reporting practices of citizens and family cohesiveness. Accordingly, crime rankings often are deemed “simplistic” or “incomplete.” However, this criticism is largely based on the fact that there are reasons for the differences in crime rates, not that the rates are incompatible. This would be somewhat akin to deciding not to compare athletes on their speed in the 100-yard dash because of physical or training differences. Such differences help explain the different speeds but do not invalidate the comparisons.

To be sure, crime-ranking information must be considered carefully. However the rankings tell not only an interesting, but also very important story regarding the incidence of crime in the United States. Furthermore, annual rankings not only allow for comparisons among different states and cities, but also enable leaders to track their communities’ crime trends from one year to the next.

We certainly do not want to be irresponsible in our presentation of state and city crime data. Our publications help concerned Americans learn how their communities fare in the fight against crime. The first step in making our cities and states safer is to understand the true magnitude of their crime problems. This will only be achieved through straightforward data that all of us can use and understand.

i know you have a problem comprehending things, sheriff, so here is what it basically says: all statistical compilations are open to interpretation based on the calculations used. The very study you quote so often and highly states this as a disclamer because it is true. the major importance of these surveys is that allows a metro areas to track their own crime trends on a year to year basis (something which is very hard in LV as it is grwoing so fast).

i'd repeat that whole thing (cause i know how you like to repeat yourself), but it has gotten kinda stale.

so...you ever going to answer my question?