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Old 10-12-2011, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Green Valley
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Agreed, I wouldn't trade my education for the money back and I would love to have an extra 300k right now. I had great parents though I lost them a very young age but in that short time they stressed to me the importance of education. I may sometimes be around people with 10 times the amount of money I have but I never feel less than. I really think Las Vegas's education problems are parenting problems. If your not their as a parent your kids will have trouble here or anywhere.
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Old 10-12-2011, 03:25 PM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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C'mon, Cap'n. My wife is a teacher. Even she thinks the schools aren't particularly good.

Google the top 100 high schools in America. Are ANY Nevada schools on that list? No. The list is dominated with New York and Northern California schools.

Then of course, we had that Review-Journal comparison of UNLV and UNR last week. Did you read it? How about the part where they spotlight famous graduates of each school. The only one who would be known by non-Nevadans? Guy flipping Fieri, the pride of UNLV.

Compare that to a school like the University of Oregon, which has astronauts, two Nobel winners and 10 Pulitzer winners.

The list of famous Las Vegans is populated by athletes and porn stars, not scholars.
US News list of top 561 US high schools has 3 Las Vegas high schools on it. The includes one conventional high school...Coronado. That actually puts NV 16th on the list for high schools among the states.

The upper eleementary and middle schools are also quite good.

I would agree that we have allowed upstate to screw UNLV to the benefit of UNR. We should immediately put a stop to that. I would start by moving the Medical School and a number of the stronger departments to UNLV. Time to return the favor.

We are not trying to create an ivy league environ. There are very few of those. And a blue color town does not need that.

But the elementary and secondary education here is fine as long as you are middle class and upward.

Oh...and are smart enough not to live in Sunrise Manor.
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Old 10-12-2011, 03:30 PM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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True, but if your child wants to go to an Ivy League college, there really isn't primary school trajectory that is going to make that happen. I'm sure we can find kids from Las Vegas at Harvard or Dartmouth or Brown. But I'll bet they had to work a LOT harder to get there than the kid who went to Hotchkiss.
Don't kid yourself. For any of the famous schools far better number 1 are Palo Verde or Coronado than 25 at Bronx High School of Science.

Having a family who all came through the ultimate high schools around I can assure you it is far easier to be very high in a not exceptional school than top 10% in one of the great ones.

The best deal was Riverdale School...where 8 of my cousins went. They got a free ride to Columbia because their mother was the headmaster there...
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Old 10-12-2011, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Sunrise
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Oh...and are smart enough not to live in Sunrise Manor.
Stellar attitude, as usual. So, who crapped in your cornflakes today, Cap'n?


Care to compare views? Airplane noise? Peace and quiet?



Here's what I look out at every day. What's the view from your back porch, Cap'n?
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Old 10-12-2011, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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Ya gotta wonder how much our schools' grades are affected by having such a large non-English speaking population ...and that includes a lot of Americans who don't speak English. I think our schools are fine if the student wishes to get an education rather than aspire to taking minimum wage jobs. But, I wouldn't want to have a kid in any school in the U.S. right now. Too many well meaning liberals are afraid to hurt anyone's feelings, so instead of raising the kids from certain backgrounds up to a higher level, and being honest with them about it, they have allowed the kids from better backgrounds to drop to the lower levels.

At the same time you have certain people with a vested interest in controlling the society worming their way into the school system, and doing away with the concept of right and wrong, so that they are the only arbiters of that concept, and they control what we think. Since they started doing that right after WW II, they have pretty much had time to take away the moral values, for whatever they were worth, of those who are now parents and grandparents. So we hear that parents aren't teaching the kids right from wrong ─ but how could they if they were never taught those values themselves?

The schools take our kids away (in the past they did it at gunpoint) and hold them hostage everyday for hours, and see them more than the parents do, and they refuse to take responsibility for their behavior. If you're going to raise them against our wishes, them raise them right.

While all this is going on they are teaching your kids that you are bad. If you discipline the kid, that's child abuse. If you don't discipline the kid, that's child neglect. I must/I must not, or, I want/I can't have, causes the frustration that leads to insane behavior. This is the only real product of psychiatry. Think about it.
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Old 10-12-2011, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Sunrise
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Ya gotta wonder how much our schools' grades are affected by having such a large non-English speaking population ...and that includes a lot of Americans who don't speak English. I think our schools are fine if the student wishes to get an education rather than aspire to taking minimum wage jobs. But, I wouldn't want to have a kid in any school in the U.S. right now. Too many well meaning liberals are afraid to hurt anyone's feelings, so instead of raising the kids from certain backgrounds up to a higher level, and being honest with them about it, they have allowed the kids from better backgrounds to drop to the lower levels.
You can't just blame the liberals. We have parents hiring lawyers to sue school systems that try to hold back the "slower" kids.

I have a good friend in San Diego who's son did fine in school. A+ student. Then they moved to a new neighborhood, and the kid found himself in a classroom with 95% Spanish-speaking kids, AND A TEACHER WHO TAUGHT CLASS IN SPANISH.

Naturally, his grades plummeted, and my friend was forced to bite the bullet and send the kid to private school.

You're right -- that's PART of what's wrong with the system. But there are a lot of idiotic things schools, administrators and teachers have to deal with. Like standardized tests determining their funding levels. That's what has led to wide-spread cheating in Atlanta and elsewhere.

We're raising a generation of slack-jawed mouthbreathers who are glued to the three-inch screens on their gizmos. The exceptional students will find a way to get ahead. But the system itself is an anchor on bright kids.

And the notion that "we're a blue collar town and should be raising blue-collar kids" disgusts me. We should encourage all children to shoot for the moon. Those that make it may not end up living in Las Vegas. But they should be given every chance possible to excel in life.
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Old 10-12-2011, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Tucson
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Just wanted some information on living in Las Vegas. Can you please give me some information about a good school systems I have 2 kids that will be attending schools, also a good hospital that has a major trauma center, Im an RN, also the cost of living in Vegas, my husband is from Queens, so we dont know if we want to go there to NYC or Las Vegas, I know 2 completely different areas. Thanks
Search through this forum, there are tons of responses to your questions.

The brand new VA hospital in North Las Vegas is going to need staff. It is due to open next year.

What is more important to you, where the children go to school, what your job is, or where you live?

If it is schools, then seek the best schools in Las Vegas, check GreatSchools - Public and Private School Ratings, Reviews and Parent Community, and be very prepared to be involved and present to work with your child. Otherwise they may get an education that will create challenges for them in the future.

I know of several military families who move here and their child in a public school is repeating what they have already learned. Those with kindergarteners or 1st graders move and then find their child is behind. The exceptions have been parents who have enriched their childs learning themselves. Some have struggled with keeping their kids engaged in school though because they get bored. Of course, that is probably the case in other parts of the country too. It is what you make of it. If you take the time to be involved I don't think your child will suffer just because they are in the CCSD.
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Old 10-12-2011, 06:59 PM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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Stellar attitude, as usual. So, who crapped in your cornflakes today, Cap'n?


Care to compare views? Airplane noise? Peace and quiet?



Here's what I look out at every day. What's the view from your back porch, Cap'n?
Ohhh. Really want to compare schools? How about the probability of getting shot in the neighborhood shopping center?

Bums per intersection?

I hear you need a big vehicle...so you can armor it to drive up the hill to your home.

Can you really get your wife to go to the local walmart? Or do you provide an armed guard?

My pictures are actually better than yours...unless you get points for the strip view. And my lot is similar to yours.

You will probably do better to drop this line...but your choice.

I will be glad to provide school numbers if you really want to see them.
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Old 10-12-2011, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Sunrise
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Ohhh. Really want to compare schools? How about the probability of getting shot in the neighborhood shopping center?

Bums per intersection?

I hear you need a big vehicle...so you can armor it to drive up the hill to your home.

Can you really get your wife to go to the local walmart? Or do you provide an armed guard?

My pictures are actually better than yours...unless you get points for the strip view. And my lot is similar to yours.

You will probably do better to drop this line...but your choice.

I will be glad to provide school numbers if you really want to see them.
Well, at least everyone sees how you think.

1) I don't care about schools. My wife and I can't have children. We'd really like to, but we can't. So that's that. Maybe we'll get lucky, but I tend to doubt it.

2) Getting shot at the shopping center? Unlikely. We shop at the Mexican supermarkets. But they all know us, so it's all good. We also shop at Village Meat and Deli, International Marketplace, Costco, the Asian markets and a few others. I don't worry about getting shot.

3) Bums per intersection? Zero. All the houses around here are pricey.

4) Wife shopping at Walmart? Puh-leeze. Neither of us has ever stepped foot in a Walmart.

5) Let's see those pictures of your view from your back porch. I showed you mine. Let's see yours. Don't tell me you've got better pictures without putting up. Or shut up. Your choice, pal.
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Old 10-12-2011, 10:01 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Just wanted some information on living in Las Vegas. Can you please give me some information about a good school systems I have 2 kids that will be attending schools, also a good hospital that has a major trauma center, Im an RN, also the cost of living in Vegas, my husband is from Queens, so we dont know if we want to go there to NYC or Las Vegas, I know 2 completely different areas. Thanks
Well... the school topic has been beat up here but I'll certainly agree with the ones who understand that it's not ALL of the schools being lower then average... generally coming from people who really know Las Vegas.

All you have to do is go to Clark County School District (CCSD) in Las Vegas, NV | GreatSchools to get an idea of the what and why and make your own determination.

The Clark County School District is a huge school district and like so many other big school districts.... does not have the greatest rankings.

List of the largest school districts in the United States by enrollment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A similar school district in size, the Chicago Public Schools District is right in line with CCSD when it comes to rankings -- not great.... probably even worse. But hit the suburbs of Chicago and you'll find some of the best school districts in the United States.

Unlike Chicago... All of the schools in what would be considered the suburbs (Henderson, Summerlin, etc...) of Las Vegas are lumped into CCSD. The overall average of the schools in these areas are pretty good but unless you really understand the CCSD system... outsiders would never know it.

On the RN note, I'm in the process of relocating a ICU RN who is bailing the taxes and weather of New Jersey to move to Vegas.

Three job offers.... signing bonus, relocation expenses... a sweet salary for Las Vegas.

Track down the Hospital Recruiters and if you have experience.... you should get a very good idea very quickly on your job opportunities. If your new salary is anything like what the salary is that the person I'm relocating is going to be getting.... you can pretty much pick whatever Clark County zip code you want to live in.

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