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Old 04-19-2012, 03:15 PM
 
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People griping about specific voting blocks are missing the fact that it's the casinos that want it this way.
You're right that they don't want it. Your reasoning for this is utterly incorrect.
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I doubt the Wynn wants legal prostitutes trolling their gaming floor.
As opposed to the hordes of illegal prostitutes that are in every casino now (especially the higher end ones)? The hookers operate pretty openly (if somewhat descretely.) If the casinos wanted them out, they could get them out.

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I doubt the Bellagio wants to deal with guests overdosing on legal cocaine.
If coke was legal, the casinos would be comping it at the tables (just like alcohol.) They don't care about their customers using it now (to the extent that the GCB allows them not to.) If someone hits the wall, they get 'em off the floor, call an ambulence, and get them off the property.
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I doubt Paris Paris <???> wants to deal with a pack of 20 guys stoned off their butts walking by their black jack tables.
No they want them on the BJ tables, playing, the stoneder (the better to puke out their cash) the better.
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People looking for Amsterdam, might as well keep looking. Those multibillion dollar properties don't want uncontrolled environments.
That depends on how you defined uncontrolled. Anything falling under the rubrick of "partying" they could care less about. Legalizing it would not change the amount of it happening very much, and they deal with these situations all the time now. If anything, they'd love to get the GCB off their back about it.
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They want enough taboo that it encourages the 20 somethings, but not enough that it becomes a problem to manage, and starts causing them to only be able to attract the 20 somethings.

If the casinos wanted the Vegas people are describing... it would have already happened by now.
That has nothing to do with it. I previously posted the main reason why all that stuff is still illegal, because it would scare of the corporate convention/conference business.
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Old 04-19-2012, 07:39 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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If youi're talking about where I think you're talking about, you're taking your life in your hands (and I'm not talking about STDs.)
I remind myself constantly: We are Home of the Brave! Don't want to disappoint our Founding Fathers and Mothers!
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Old 04-29-2012, 07:30 PM
 
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You're right that they don't want it. Your reasoning for this is utterly incorrect.


As opposed to the hordes of illegal prostitutes that are in every casino now (especially the higher end ones)? The hookers operate pretty openly (if somewhat descretely.) If the casinos wanted them out, they could get them out.


If coke was legal, the casinos would be comping it at the tables (just like alcohol.) They don't care about their customers using it now (to the extent that the GCB allows them not to.) If someone hits the wall, they get 'em off the floor, call an ambulence, and get them off the property.

No they want them on the BJ tables, playing, the stoneder (the better to puke out their cash) the better.

That depends on how you defined uncontrolled. Anything falling under the rubrick of "partying" they could care less about. Legalizing it would not change the amount of it happening very much, and they deal with these situations all the time now. If anything, they'd love to get the GCB off their back about it.


That has nothing to do with it. I previously posted the main reason why all that stuff is still illegal, because it would scare of the corporate convention/conference business.
I agree the convention crowd is a major segment I missed. However there is a distinct difference between a legal and an illegal "taboo" within casino floors... I know, I used to be a supervisor for Harrah's. They overlook it for people blowing mass amounts of cash and not harming anyone, but just because you don't see it on the floor... They come down hard when those people step out of line. So yes... if you are controlled they let you stay. But my whole point is legalizing it all would give them less ability to both control AND come down hard.

I mean these companies are traded on the stock market. These are entities that if a slot machine is under performing for 2 months in a row, it might never be found on their floor again. The micromanagement in a casino is at freakish/neurotic levels. Just because for the majority, Vegas is all about cutting loose, doesn't mean those billion dollar investments want it that way behind the scenes.

All these properties have essentially a police department/gaming authority in their casinos.. and for the record they make arrests all the time. You just don't see it as a visitor.
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Old 04-30-2012, 03:06 PM
 
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There are two separate issue here. The first is how they deal with stuff that is currently illegal, but happening anyway on their property. How they deal with that depends on what it costs them to allow or stop it. Whichever costs them less, they do.

The second issue is what they'd prefer to be legal or illegal. The same logic applies. Vegas walks a tightrope, based on it's varying customer bases. The racier/rawnchier the goings on, the more partying tourists will likely come, but if they cross the line (whereever that line maybe) they lose corporate business. So they try to figure out where that line is, an push the gov't to make that line the the legal boundary is.

Any, yes, you're correct. They're counting every nickle. But it very much not a moral issue, it's just money.

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I agree the convention crowd is a major segment I missed. However there is a distinct difference between a legal and an illegal "taboo" within casino floors... I know, I used to be a supervisor for Harrah's. They overlook it for people blowing mass amounts of cash and not harming anyone, but just because you don't see it on the floor... They come down hard when those people step out of line. So yes... if you are controlled they let you stay. But my whole point is legalizing it all would give them less ability to both control AND come down hard.

I mean these companies are traded on the stock market. These are entities that if a slot machine is under performing for 2 months in a row, it might never be found on their floor again. The micromanagement in a casino is at freakish/neurotic levels. Just because for the majority, Vegas is all about cutting loose, doesn't mean those billion dollar investments want it that way behind the scenes.

All these properties have essentially a police department/gaming authority in their casinos.. and for the record they make arrests all the time. You just don't see it as a visitor.
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