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Old 11-25-2012, 09:18 PM
 
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Las Vegas wasn't like this before. It seems this is a town now just for college kids and young adults who are waisting their money savings for those stupid nightclubs and bars.
Alcoholic drinks are expensive as well compared to just few years ago. $12 per mix drink....no thank you.

Thank you Las Vegas but this is our last visit. We felt very unsafe and misplaced.
Wow, don't know what to say. I'm 50+, fiscally responsible (but socially tolerant). I first went to Las Vegas in 1983. I got married in 1994 at the small chapel in front of the cozy Hacienda (now Mandalay Bay). We spent our honeymoon at the then-new Luxor. I've been going to Las Vegas 6-10 times a year since then. I do only low-limit gambling and infrequently drink.

So has Las Vegas changed? Sure. I miss the 50 cent Craps downtown. The less expensive buffets, drinks, and shows are a thing of the past.

But, geez. There is no other city like Las Vegas.

I'm not ready for shuffleboard, not a fan of beach vacations, and too hyper for mountain escapes.

The off-strip casinos are still a great attraction and value (although a little too smoky for me). Getting away from the Strip might be the remedy. The off-strip casinos have an older demographic, more easy to walk around, and slower paced. Yea, that's the ticket.

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Old 11-26-2012, 12:24 AM
 
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Just came back to my hotel room. I arrived to your town yesterday and I'm leaving tomorrow.
Last time I visited Las Vegas was back in 2007 and boy how much this town has changed.
This is not the same good old Las Vegas anymore. Both me and my wife are very disappointed and I don't think we will visit again. Las Vegas is like a cheap Zoo now. My wife felt very unsafe walking down the strip. Demographics of visitors has changed drastically. Young adults drunk or on drugs everywhere. Shady characters all over the place. Homeless people are asking for money everywhere, people hustling for a dollar. This town is truly promoting sex and alcohol to our young adults and every casino floor looks like a glorified strip club with those party pits all over the place and young girls dancing half naked. You can't even find decent mature casino dealers anymore just young girls in half naked uniforms.
I feel sorry for all those hard working mature adult casino workers who are getting replaced by those young girls who probably got those jobs without any experience just for the age and looks. Terrible.

Las Vegas wasn't like this before. It seems this is a town now just for college kids and young adults who are waisting their money savings for those stupid nightclubs and bars.
Alcoholic drinks are expensive as well compared to just few years ago. $12 per mix drink....no thank you.

Thank you Las Vegas but this is our last visit. We felt very unsafe and misplaced.
Not too much is the way it was "before". Anywhere. Quite possible you are not rolling with your changes (aging). Certain things we overlook when we are younger or when it is our first time somewhere, we have less tolerance for. Maybe some of those things did, in fact, exist in 2007 but you didn't really notice them as you had more tolerance for them. Your focus was elsewhere. Certainly a dayclub is not going to have the appeal to an older person as it does to the younger ones. There may be more bridges now than before, so you see more beggars (not convinced they are all homeless). They are more in the open? That said, there are more scantily clad girls doing the table top pole dancing, for sure. IMO, it's overdone, but that's me. Yes, the costumed people were never there before and they are annoying to me too, but I just ignore and accept the change. It's cheap to me. But, 12 years ago, when I started visiting, I saw all the drunks and party people all over. I have seen some changes, some better, some worse, but some are just me changing and I realize that.

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Kiddieville, screaming kids, baby buggies and worn out parents...sure has changed, and, IMO not for the better. Years past I went there to gamble and see the shows, my last visit was in 2010 and it was indeed, my last visit.
Hmmm...sounds like Florida, I mean Disney. I don't understand why someone who doesn't like the place, hasn't been here for a couple years, makes it a point to check out the city forum and write a negative. I lived most my life in Metro Detroit, MI and barely go to that forum and I still go visit there many times a year. No real interest in dogging the place, although I am sure I could pepper the forum with a few negative opinions! I understand the OP as they were just here. Strange, IMO...hard to stay away?

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Only three places to live in entire city now.

Summerlin
GreenValley
South(southern highlands)

The remainder of the city is complete war zone

Chinatown on Spring mountain has 83 massage parlors
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Impossible to enter many neigborhoods after dusk, it would be hard to come out alive.
You are ABSOLUTELY incorrect. I was just out walking all over my neighborhood, after dark, last night. Was beautiful. I do not live in those you mention. Apparently you have not been to a "complete war zone".
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Old 11-26-2012, 01:10 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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Sounds to me like it's the OP that changed. But the world has changed.

Las Vegas has always known how to roll with the times, anticipate what the customer base wants, and provide a teasing little taste of what they expect when they come here. Or what they are willing to blow a ton of money on. And by "they" I mean people from every part of the world, but especially ordinary people that live in YOUR neighborhood. If you don't like what you see in Las Vegas, then you probably don't think much of your neighbors who are coming here looking to satisfy their vices. And many of them do, but most entertainment in Las Vegas, as someone said, is now pretty tame compared to the "good old days" when the "Mob" ran things and there were nude showgirls on every stage in town. By the way, some of those nudes were such prudes off stage you wouldn't believe what they did for a living.

Las Vegas has always just been a reflection of the country's expectations. We don't create the mores of the nation here, we just try to satisfy them and keep it within the boundaries of the law. And it's amazing just how strict some of our laws regarding morality are in Nevada. What you see in the weirdos hanging out on The Strip and on Fremont Street is not because anyone here wants them. It's thanks to the courts making laws from the bench. Otherwise they'd be gone. But those same people can be seen from one end of Sunset and Hollywood Boulevards to the other. Probably in Times Square also. And let's not forget the circus that calls itself San Francisco. And there's no point in even mentioning New Orleans; or any large city in the country.

What you see on The Strip first of all is just our business district and our primary business is entertainment. It is not what you see off the Strip. But, after all, The Strip is just a composite, close-up view, of the rest of the world which lives by and for the latest fad.
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Old 11-26-2012, 03:02 AM
 
Location: Bangkok, NYC, and LV
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sounds to me like it's the op that changed. But the world has changed.

Las vegas has always known how to roll with the times, anticipate what the customer base wants, and provide a teasing little taste of what they expect when they come here. Or what they are willing to blow a ton of money on. And by "they" i mean people from every part of the world, but especially ordinary people that live in your neighborhood. If you don't like what you see in las vegas, then you probably don't think much of your neighbors who are coming here looking to satisfy their vices. And many of them do, but most entertainment in las vegas, as someone said, is now pretty tame compared to the "good old days" when the "mob" ran things and there were nude showgirls on every stage in town. By the way, some of those nudes were such prudes off stage you wouldn't believe what they did for a living.

Las vegas has always just been a reflection of the country's expectations. We don't create the mores of the nation here, we just try to satisfy them and keep it within the boundaries of the law. And it's amazing just how strict some of our laws regarding morality are in nevada. What you see in the weirdos hanging out on the strip and on fremont street is not because anyone here wants them. It's thanks to the courts making laws from the bench. Otherwise they'd be gone. But those same people can be seen from one end of sunset and hollywood boulevards to the other. Probably in times square also. And let's not forget the circus that calls itself san francisco. And there's no point in even mentioning new orleans; or any large city in the country.

What you see on the strip first of all is just our business district and our primary business is entertainment. It is not what you see off the strip. But, after all, the strip is just a composite, close-up view, of the rest of the world which lives by and for the latest fad.
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Old 11-26-2012, 03:47 AM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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The mob ran the city better than wallstreet.

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And probably were more honest about it.
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Old 11-26-2012, 06:23 AM
 
Location: Earth
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Sour grapes make a lot of whine!

You see what you choose to see and things will always be as you perceive them....you create your own reality.
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Old 11-26-2012, 06:31 AM
 
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Isn't the mob Wall street, now?
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Old 11-26-2012, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Kingman AZ
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+1 for Bzzzzzz
+1 for Cyborg

For oomph....if daBoyz ran wall street it would never have the problems it has now
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Old 11-26-2012, 09:08 AM
 
Location: SIN CITY LAS VEGAS
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Las Vegas has changed for those that do not have any extra money to spend. Sorry folks. You have to have the moola to enjoy the REAL EXPERIENCE.
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Old 11-26-2012, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Bangkok, NYC, and LV
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Las Vegas has changed for those that do not have any extra money to spend. Sorry folks. You have to have the moola to enjoy the REAL EXPERIENCE.
Sadly you are correct. $45 to get into a club without a local ID, parting with $20 for a drink, the Blue Man show is over $100 a ticket. There are deals for locals. Many. But to enjoy the five star chefs and bacchanal delights it's big money for most people.

The laugh factor in Ohio is like $20 a ticket. To see the same performer in Vegas it's often three times that.


When I was a kid we used to stay in Circus Circus and eat at the buffet for less than $50 a day.

Some of the tabs in the day and night clubs would make Warren Buffet himself wild-eyed.
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