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Old 11-26-2012, 04:39 PM
 
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...there are bingo parlors and quilting clubs too...

Some even serve warm soup!
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:22 PM
 
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Mutualmikegz, those of us who have been around since at least the 60's miss getting dressed up on Saturday night, going to an 8:00 show in the main room, then lounge hopping all night; after which we would have a 49 cent breakfast at The Showboat. We miss watching top entertainers in lounges for the price of a drink, which was about 75 cents back then. Actually, in many lounges you didn't even have to buy a drink if you didn't want one. We miss being able to park right in front of the hotel and walk maybe ten yards to the door and never ever seeing anyone actually walk down The Strip. We miss one dollar Black Jack; and we miss using the name '21' instead of Black Jack which sounds like a home game played on the kitchen table.

We miss being able to drive anywhere in town in 15 minutes or less. We miss shopping at Safeway at 2:AM with the showgirls from Folies Bergere. We miss cruising Fremont Street with the top down. We miss the little bit of excitement we'd have knowing we were brushing elbows around town with men who were "connected", but they always left us alone so it was cool.

But life goes on. Things always change. We old timers don't really like it either, but realize Las Vegas has to offer what people want ...not just what YOU want ...but what the majority wants.

The point is, Las Vegas didn't create the changes you see, they were foisted on us by the Jersey Shore mentality of the rest of the country. And they were also foisted on us by Los Angelenos who, in about 1986 or 87, began selling their $40,000 homes for $300,000 to easterners looking for a warm climate; then the Californians discovered they could buy a home worth $80,000 in Las Vegas for only $125,000, and still have some money left for retirement. Never mind that now WE had to pay more if we wanted to move to a different neighborhood ...something we wouldn't have thought of doing, except now that we were being over-run by Kalifornicator street gangs, our older neighborhoods were going down hill so fast we got caught off guard.

So if your visit was unpleasant, we're sorry it didn't work out this time. But blame it on the rest of the country, not those of us that have enough seniority to be called "locals". You can take this to the bank though - if the rest of the country rediscovers THEIR good taste, the next wave of construction, remodeling, refurbishing, and entertainment in Las Vegas will be done to accommodate them - and we'll be ahead of the curve on that. But any other city that you might be living in will be left in our dust as it has always been.
Well written but you are mistaken on one point: Most places on the strip in Las Vegas are not motivated by what the majority of visitors want but rather by what generates them the most revenue. A casino would rather have 1 customer who drops 10,000 bucks over a weekend than ten who drop 1,000.
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:22 PM
 
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OP - you're going to get a lot of flack for expressing your opinion in here. Las Vegas locals don't take kindly to any criticism constructive or not.

I do agree that Vegas has lost a lot of the class that it once had. Not because Vegas is trashy per se, but a lot of people that come here are. It has more to do with modern society than the city. Jersey Shore, Tapout, Affliction, Ed Hardy, fully sleeved 20 something females, and the general dumbification of Americans overall is what you're seeing.

Douchebags attract douchebags and that's what seems to fill the strip on most weekends. I really question how much revenue the casinos generate from such individuals. I'm sure they generate a lot of money for the clubs, but how much of that goes to the casino?

The younger generations gambling is limited to poker which is a low revenue game for the house. How much money does the casino get for the fauxhawk/Afflliction crowd brings in their case of coors light to pre-game and blow their paycheck splitting bottle service with 8 of their buddies in a sausage fest filled evening at one of the hottest clubs?
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:57 PM
 
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Well written but you are mistaken on one point: Most places on the strip in Las Vegas are not motivated by what the majority of visitors want but rather by what generates them the most revenue. A casino would rather have 1 customer who drops 10,000 bucks over a weekend than ten who drop 1,000.
I doubt that very much. You might have a case if you go for 500 customers dropping $20.

But no one in their right mind goes for the single guy with the high draw.

You do go after such types. But you chase him after making sure you got enough general business to make your nut.

Single large whales go away on the drop of a hat...you don't want to be dependent.
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Old 11-26-2012, 09:00 PM
 
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I'm sure they generate a lot of money for the clubs, but how much of that goes to the casino?
A LOT! The casino gets a percentage of the door fees and probably other revenue sharing as well...plus the base lease!

...Not to mention the DRAW that the clubs have...you have to walk into the casino to get to the club....drunks leave the club and play tables and machines. The casino loves drunk gamblers...especially ones trying to impress/convince a girl that he has deep pockets.

Some young-ins' save up all year to look big at the clubs and others are trust-funders wasting daddies money, but I assure you...they spend BIG in the clubs and in the casinos.

In addition, the Europeans and Aussie young-ins LOVE to come here and play bigshot! ....and they have the cash to do it!

The whales will come regardless...this is the Superbowl of gambling...the other places just whet their appetite for LV.
They are shielded from the regular casino shenanigans by high stakes and VIP rooms....closed off to the public if requested...
70% of the whales are Chinese bankers and industrialists....they are rich beyond imagination because you shop at Walmart!

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Old 11-26-2012, 10:15 PM
 
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OP - you're going to get a lot of flack for expressing your opinion in here. Las Vegas locals don't take kindly to any criticism constructive or not.
Not necessarily true, I have read all the posts here and I read many of the locals agreeing with some of the OP's points.
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Old 11-26-2012, 11:01 PM
 
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Not necessarily true, I have read all the posts here and I read many of the locals agreeing with some of the OP's points.
Yes. Almost everyone has pretty much agreed that the strip has changed and keeps changing. Baby booming tourist will have to adjust.




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Old 11-27-2012, 07:10 AM
 
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I decided to move away from Vegas when my daughter's dance teacher, was telling the girls how much money they would make working at Cheetah's.

Yes. They make a lot of money.
No. I did not want my daughter to think that was a great career goal.
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:09 AM
 
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Thank you for some great replies guys.
Jasper12 I'm not sure how anyone could raise their kids in a town overwhelmed with sex industry, nightclubs, gaming and alcohol?
That is terrible that a dance teacher would recommend to his students, especially to young girls.
I did noticed that money is on everyone's mind in Las Vegas and some people have no boundaries when it omes on how to make that money. Certainly those young girls dressed half naked have no shame at all wearing those outfits. They probably think that is cool being half naked for 8 hours at work.
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Old 11-27-2012, 11:17 AM
 
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Thank you for some great replies guys.
Jasper12 I'm not sure how anyone could raise their kids in a town overwhelmed with sex industry, nightclubs, gaming and alcohol?
That is terrible that a dance teacher would recommend to his students, especially to young girls.
I did noticed that money is on everyone's mind in Las Vegas and some people have no boundaries when it omes on how to make that money. Certainly those young girls dressed half naked have no shame at all wearing those outfits. They probably think that is cool being half naked for 8 hours at work.
*gets popcorn*
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