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Old 10-01-2013, 12:19 PM
 
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" Public Places " like bars and restaurants have to right to accept you vapping ( e-cig term cause it's not smoking but making vapor ) or not based on the same rule if they serve you in shorts or not . One should not get mad, it's their policy. You visit if you want or not.

I personally do not vape in most non-smoking situations just to avoid having to explain what and why i am doing what i do. It gets old quick. But i do vape in my car ( wife is happy car does not stink anymore and i can vape with the windows up and ac running ) , work , most food courts in malls , ballparks , etc.

 
Old 10-01-2013, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Henderson, NV
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Okay. This Wikipedia article says that some e-cigs do contain nicotine:
Electronic cigarette - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As to why they're not accepted by some, I'm not willing to guess. Perhaps that's the reason.
Yes, they all can contain nicotine unless you're just vaping flavor. They don't contain tobacco and carcinogens. That was the difference we were pointing out.
 
Old 10-01-2013, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Washington
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Okay. That said, nicotine is not "nothing".

"According to the American Heart Association, nicotine addiction has historically been one of the hardest addictions to break ...."
Nicotine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm not really anti-smoking; I'm just sayin' ...
 
Old 10-01-2013, 03:02 PM
 
Location: Henderson, NV
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Okay. That said, nicotine is not "nothing".

"According to the American Heart Association, nicotine addiction has historically been one of the hardest addictions to break ...."
Nicotine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I'm not really anti-smoking; I'm just sayin' ...
No disagreement here. eCigs enable people who are addicted to nicotine still feed the addiction while not impacting themselves (or those around them) with carcinogens. Nicotine is similar to caffeine, albeit much more addictive. But it won't kill or even seriously harm you. The effects of nicotine have been proven to increase the heartbeat by a few beats a minute, less than exercise, but not cause any damage to the body. It's the OTHER hundreds of additives in cigarettes that are the killers.

For me, I am insanely addicted to caffeine. That will kill me alot quicker than nicotine and water.
 
Old 10-01-2013, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Washington
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But it won't kill or even seriously harm you.
Not entirely true, but you'd have to take some steps to get enough into your system that it would kill you.

I feel for anyone addicted to cigarettes. In any case, there might be people who object to sitting near nicotine vapor, especially in a restaurant. Whether it's ignorant or not, or politically whatever, it's much easier to just take the cigs/e-cigs outside, I'm thinking.
 
Old 10-01-2013, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Henderson, NV
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Not entirely true, but you'd have to take some steps to get enough into your system that it would kill you.

I feel for anyone addicted to cigarettes. In any case, there might be people who object to sitting near nicotine vapor, especially in a restaurant. Whether it's ignorant or not, or politically whatever, it's much easier to just take the cigs/e-cigs outside, I'm thinking.
Agreed. Anything in a big enough dose will kill you. Ingest 6 gallons of water. Dead.

I, personally have no problem vaping only where smoking is allowed. I just like that I can do so in my house without odor.
 
Old 10-01-2013, 05:08 PM
 
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Not only the "EVIL" part of bad health is improved by e-cigs.

But the extra benefits are great .

1. No more bad breath from cigs. Wife kissed me more
2. No more bad odor on cloths . Cologne now last all day
3. Improved sense of smell ( this is a good and bad ) Good cause food smells better and taste more . Bad people have some bad BO i never smelled before .
4. Work out is much more fun without gasping for air more.

those are a few in only 3 months
 
Old 10-01-2013, 06:39 PM
 
Location: Henderson, NV
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I have been using an ecig for 1 1/2 years. It is the first time in 30 years that I haven't gone back to tobacco cigs. I am still addicted to nicotine and I am ok with that. I use it at home, maybe at a bar or at the casino. I too don't like to draw attention to myself by using it in restaurants or stores. Just don't want the confrontation. I am happy using it and maybe some day I will cut down to just a flavored liquid with no nicotine. I think the "motion" of smoking is more addictive than the nicotine is!

My Dr. said nicotine will never hurt me when used the way you are supposed to use it. I'm not going to drink it like a shot!

Unfortunately they are getting a lot of bad press lately and I am not sure why. I get a kick out of the articles that say the ecig companies need to be regulated because they are using flavors to attract kids...REALLY? What about alcohol? Have you walked through the liquor aisle lately? Cotton Candy, Cherry, Rootbeer, Swedish Fish, Fruit Loops...why are they not regulating alcohol? Watch...once the government gets involved and gets their cut out of the revenue, the flavors won't matter one bit!
 
Old 10-01-2013, 06:56 PM
 
Location: Area 51.5
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OP I used e-cigs to quit real cigs. For me I wanted something that resembled a real cigarette, for you know...the whole oral fixation thing or whatever. I figured something as close to the real thing would give me the best shot.

Personally I didn't want anything resembling a crack pipe or something that was the size of what the ladies keep in the nightstand drawer. I tried a bunch of the minis and most of them were pretty bad. I came across the halo brand online and have ordered the cigs and liquid (vapor just sounds so damned corny). The g6 lasts for about half a day, but they come with two.

About a month ago I got 3 bottles of the juice from a place on rainbow around windmill. I don't remember the name, but it was a pretty good value: 3 15ml bottles for $25. They have all those huge vaping contraptions as well if that's your thing. I think pretty much everyone makes their own blends. They sell all the stuff to do so online.
Exactly.

I started with the Joye 510 and moved up to the 1000 mAh Joye Ego.

I'm very happy with both. The Ego lasts much longer before having to charge and doesn't look like a bong.

Some of the nonsense people come up with is just plain silly.

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I'm sure I'm going to be sorry for venturing an opinion here ...

Perhaps they don't want any type of tobacco in their establishments, whether as smoke wafting through the air, or in steam wafting through the air.

That said, my theory with visiting restaurants is that it would be best for all to smoke outside, rather than where people are eating. At least, it's polite.
Pssssssttttttttttttt: There isn't any tobacco in ecigs.

Now you know.
 
Old 10-01-2013, 08:52 PM
 
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I think the attack on E-cigs is the most telling thing I have ever seen about peoples control motivation. Think about it. Smokers have gone from the majority to the minority in about 10 years. I cannot be a considerate smoker enough to satisfy the anti-smoker crowd. I can secretly smoke high on a mountain top or on a deserted beach and there will be someone who complains.

We have removed EVERY SINGLE reason anti's complained about it, but its not enough. Now just looking like we are enjoying our vice is just as bad as doing what they complained about. Anti's need to admit this was all about control. What else can it be about? If it's about hurting ourselves with nicotine, they need to look at their caffeine addiction. Because mark my words, they are next.
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