[janeannwho]

The car registration is nothing compared to state income tax. Enjoy it. Live outside the city limits to lower your insurance costs. The schools are horrible unless you manage to get into a magnet school and then they are great. Too bad they cant figure out how to run them all like the magnets.

[olecapt]

Originally Posted by janeannwho

The car registration is nothing compared to state income tax. Enjoy it. Live outside the city limits to lower your insurance costs. The schools are horrible unless you manage to get into a magnet school and then they are great. Too bad they cant figure out how to run them all like the magnets.

An interesting view...but I think you are talking high schools are you not? I am unaware of any successful magnet school at the elementary level and I think only a couple at the middle school level.

[janeannwho]

Well my younger son went to White Middle School and basically skated through academically having had an East Coast Catholic School primary education. He was a French major/music minor at LVA and that was a great experience all around. The older one only dealt with Green Valley's International Baccalaureates program, but even in the better school, it was run like a prison and is affectionately known as Hitler high to many.

[MrVegas]

Originally Posted by jfkIII

MrV...that 'sux'

Welcome to the LV forum. If you don't mind me asking...what was it that attracted you to Las Vegas to begin with? Many thinking of moving there now may be in the same shoes (and frame of mind) that you were in six years ago, and can benefit from a similar reference point.

I agree with your post, and because of that, most people assume I hate LV. Actually I love visiting LV...but wouldn't want to live there. Since this is a site for learning and helping others out, I spread a similar unpopular message here, and take some heavy-duty flack for it (as I'm sure you will also...so please be prepared!) I do so, to help others separate the tourist LV from the resident LV (I'm sure you're aware that there are many who visit there only, and then make the decision to move there based on their vacation experiences!) I don't expect them to center on what I post, but I do try, as you have above, to get them thinking. My hopes is that my posts bring to light what many others chose not to.

Good luck...and I'm in your corner.

The short answer is chasing my wife.

We are originally from New Jersey and right after college we both got hired to different firms in the south. Her in Alabama and me in North Carolina. After a while we decided to get married and I moved to Alabama. We lived there almost 18 years. During that time, my wife left computers and went into medicine at Vanderbilt. Resume on the net, company called, yada-yada-yada, we are in Vegas.

Now to compare what is called community here vs what is community in the south is straight folly. People won't speak here. Simple hello's bring out the harshest looks in most of the people here and I'm not particularly hard to look at. Nor is my wife.

In the south, I knew most of my neighbors. Here in Vegas, I know 3 of my neighbors by name. Maybe 3 more because they recognize my car. These people are unfriendly, rude and somewhat disrespectful. It's common for people to walk past you and not even look in your direction. That to me is NOT normal.

So I make these assessments from having been in communities before. This so-called community, you can keep. They even removed the word "community" from the community college. Now how sick is that. And only ONE local tv station even report on High School Football games. The others would if there is perhaps gunplay or something perverted going on. But that's it. That's Las Vegas community for you.

I could go on with specific examples but it wouldn't serve any purpose. Suffice it to say, I would NEVER recommend coming here to live to my enemies let alone my friends.

Anybody want to challange my assertions, feel free.

But let me get some coffee in first or you'd have clear advantage.

-MrVegas

[olecapt]

Community in the south? You mean like Jena? Keep em in their place? That kind of kkkommunity?

Knowing a good bit about the south your position is absurd. The south has more variation on community than anywhere else in the world. Hell in some places you get to say hello only if you are the right kind of Baptist.

Community in the south...for goodness sake y'all must not have paid much attention.

[EricW38]

I really do appreciate the feedback from all of you that keep posting here.

[jfkIII]

LOL...sorry Eric...almost forgot about you there. So which way are you leaning, today...Henderson or Tampa?

[MrVegas]

Originally Posted by olecapt

Community in the south? You mean like Jena? Keep em in their place? That kind of kkkommunity?

Knowing a good bit about the south your position is absurd. The south has more variation on community than anywhere else in the world. Hell in some places you get to say hello only if you are the right kind of Baptist.

Community in the south...for goodness sake y'all must not have paid much attention.

You've lived in Jena I take it. But please lets not debate Jena or your bouts with racism because this isn't the forum for it.

I do know racists exist everywhere. And racism for some is a fact of life, just like seeking it out is a fact of life for some. I don't know what kind of neighborhoods or groups you spend a lot of your time in and with, but based on that comment, it wasn't the kinds of neighborhoods I spent a lot of my time in or groups I hang with.

Could be income level, could be education level, could be your religious beliefs or just your character, or just dumb luck. I don't know. But if life for you is based on everybody loving everything that you are and might be about, that isn't a place named Jena, it's called Utopia.

I was born and raised in the north. Finished grad school in the north. Moved south and found the people to be warm, engaging, personable, God fearing, patient, easy going and family oriented. My kind of people.

Did I find hate? Yep.

Was it all white hate? Nope.

Saw my first klan rally up close and personal in the south. Didn't change me. Didn't phase me. However, I think almost 20 years is enough to make a fair assessment of the south.

But it's better than living here, which is my point. So lets not degrade the conversation to prove your point of view. My point of view in this matter is what matters best. Clearly I'm not going to convince you nor would I try. That's is a job for God to change you. I'm just a foot soldier with no power at all.

I take people as I find them but not as I want them to be. It's the secret to low blood pressure with just mild stress.

-MrVegas

[jfkIII]

wow! Has olecapt finally met his match?

[olecapt]

Originally Posted by MrVegas

You've lived in Jena I take it. But please lets not debate Jena or your bouts with racism because this isn't the forum for it.

I do know racists exist everywhere. And racism for some is a fact of life, just like seeking it out is a fact of life for some. I don't know what kind of neighborhoods or groups you spend a lot of your time in and with, but based on that comment, it wasn't the kinds of neighborhoods I spent a lot of my time in or groups I hang with.

Could be income level, could be education level, could be your religious beliefs or just your character, or just dumb luck. I don't know. But if life for you is based on everybody loving everything that you are and might be about, that isn't a place named Jena, it's called Utopia.

I was born and raised in the north. Finished grad school in the north. Moved south and found the people to be warm, engaging, personable, God fearing, patient, easy going and family oriented. My kind of people.

Did I find hate? Yep.

Was it all white hate? Nope.

Saw my first klan rally up close and personal in the south. Didn't change me. Didn't phase me. However, I think almost 20 years is enough to make a fair assessment of the south.

But it's better than living here, which is my point. So lets not degrade the conversation to prove your point of view. My point of view in this matter is what matters best. Clearly I'm not going to convince you nor would I try. That's is a job for God to change you. I'm just a foot soldier with no power at all.

I take people as I find them but not as I want them to be. It's the secret to low blood pressure with just mild stress.

-MrVegas

The point was and is that thereis no "South". There are thousand of communities that run from the warm and friendly to the xenophobic to the racist. I grew up in Kentucky. The monied of Lousville, the hill folk from behind Paducah and the landed gentry of Bardstown had utterly different social situations. And they were not all sweet and friendly. We grew up forbidden to attend a masonic affair or to set foot in a protestant church.

I and a number of posters here find the situations in Las Vegas quite a compatible one. It is not better than other big cities. It is very much the same. The nice suburbs of every big American city are pretty close to interchangable.

We are sorry your situation came out badly. But it was not the fault of Las Vegas. You may have made some bad choices or you may simply have been unlucky. No way to tell. And your return south may be great or you may run into the anguish that often afflicts those who try to go back....and find out that what they remember is no longer there.