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Old 12-21-2012, 08:48 PM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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From the preceding posts, I see no hope whatsoever for a line ever being built from Fremont to the Airport, and the reasons seem to be obvious. I talked to a retired taxi driver, a few years back, when a wheel or 2 were "mysteriously" falling off the Monorail that was about to open, and he stated that was no mystery at all.

So what hope is there? The tourists putting pressure on the city, those who have gotten addicted to riding light rail elsewhere in the country, and demanding it of this city. A little shame, embarrassment? Will that do it?

That pressure could come from some of our neighbors, like Tucson which now has a 3.9 mile streetcar line downtown, Phoenix with their 21 mile light rail line (now being expanded with a 3 mile extension to downtown Mesa), Salt Lake City or Los Angeles with their ever-expanding rail lines.

There's some hope yet? Do we really want to be the "last of the Mohicans"?

And we're not talking about a Valley-wide light rail system, merely a line from Fremont street to the Airport!

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Old 12-21-2012, 09:35 PM
 
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From the preceding posts, I see no hope whatsoever for a line ever being built from Fremont to the Airport, and the reasons seem to be obvious. I talked to a retired taxi driver, a few years back, when a wheel or 2 were "mysteriously" falling off the Monorail that was about to open, and he stated that was no mystery at all.

So what hope is there? The tourists putting pressure on the city, those who have gotten addicted to riding light rail elsewhere in the country, and demanding it of this city. A little shame, embarrassment? Will that do it?

That pressure could come from some of our neighbors, like Tucson which now has a 3.9 mile streetcar line downtown, Phoenix with their 21 mile light rail line (now being expanded with a 3 mile extension to downtown Mesa), Salt Lake City or Los Angeles with their ever-expanding rail lines.

There's some hope yet? Do we really want to be the "last of the Mohicans"?

And we're not talking about a Valley-wide light rail system, merely a line from Fremont street to the Airport!
Sorry - The monorail was never a realistic rail line even if it went to Fremont and the airport. It has no real local significance and would simply be another thing for the tourists. I see nothing wrong with that and suspect it really would have been a good idea to run something down the middle of the strip..perhaps with a glass top. Maybe even add a club car where you could do a couple of revolution and have a drink.

As Reagan said it would generally be cheaper to limo the poor around than build fixed track railways.

The physical layout is simply wrong. Everything is too dispersed for rail. I would think the automated cab will come and may well work. Ten years?
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Old 12-21-2012, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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As Reagan said it would generally be cheaper to limo the poor around than build fixed track railways.

The physical layout is simply wrong. Everything is too dispersed for rail. I would think the automated cab will come and may well work. Ten years?
And Reagan never experienced $4-$5 a gallon gas prices either, which happened quite recently in CA!

Too dispersed for rail, Fremont Street to the Airport? Physical layout simply wrong?
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Old 12-21-2012, 10:00 PM
 
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Taxi companies are paying off the local politicians. Just my humble opinion.
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Old 12-21-2012, 10:08 PM
 
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The Taxicab industry in Las Vegas controls transportation in the city and county....it has for 50 years and it aibt gonna change....The Taxicab lobby let them have the monorail BECAUSE they knew it was gonna be a cobbled up mess and doomed to failure.....now when things like this came up they have an example to point to .....SEE, we let ya have that and see what happened.

and now ALL the Johnny come latelys pour in sayin I KNOW WHAT WILL FIX LAS VEGAS!!!!!
I think a 10 Kiloton nuclear bomb would fix Las Vegas just fine...........
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Old 12-21-2012, 10:14 PM
 
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The monorail works fine for me but it is never full. Many people will not walk to the back of a casino property to catch the monorail.
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Old 12-21-2012, 10:17 PM
 
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The monorail is in bankruptcy reorganization. Bus option.
I bet the monorail would never be in bankruptcy if it went all the way to the airport.
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Old 12-21-2012, 10:38 PM
 
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I bet the monorail would never be in bankruptcy if it went all the way to the airport.
And I bet you would be wrong. The monorail is simply too inconvenient for people with luggage. If it had gone down the strip with stops for every casino and a luggage check in or it was set up with a luggage check in at the airport it might have worked. But down the alley on one side of the strip is a loser. I think it may survive primarily because of the service to the convention center...but that is about it. It is at best a half baked idea.
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Old 12-21-2012, 11:28 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Why would light rail be needed when you have taxis as well as many RTC bus routes traversing the strip 24 hours a day

IMHO light/commuter rail may never be needed in Las Vegas as the bus system seems to cover the busiest corridors pretty well
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Old 12-22-2012, 12:41 AM
 
Location: Sunrise
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Poppycock. That conspiracy has been disproved more than virtually any other.

The Great GM Conspiracy Legend

There are a dozen others.

The monorail is a classical committee design with many conflicting interest. It should have gone to the airport and should nave gone down the strip. It should be a feature not a problem. But the casinos were leery of a strip route and the limo/taxi folk did not want to lose much of their business. And note this thing never had government backing which could have overcome the above.
We had a robust rail system up until the 1930s. Ninety percent of all vehicular traffic in the US was streetcars. That was all dismantled. Don't tell me something cannot be done when our grandparents and great-grandparents were more than capable of doing it.
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