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Old 12-27-2012, 02:18 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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You cause me to recollect a trip Mrs. Tek and I took (I cannot remember the year) when we saw them building the Excalibur. We both wondered if that casino would make it since it was so far away from the rest of the strip.

I guess it did okay...
Not really. The Tropicana has been on the opposite corner since about 1958. There was another hotel almost where the MGM is now, and a golf course where most of the MGM is, and it had a motel on the property. The original Hacienda was even further south of Excalibur. That is where Mandalay Bay and/or Luxor are now. That's why I said the Strip ran from Sahara Ave to Russell Road. There was nothing much on the west side of LV Blvd between Tropicana Ave and the old Dunes hotel and golf course, but look at it now.

BTW, it was hard for the Hacienda "way out there" at the end of the Strip so the owner invented the Las Vegas junket and sent his airplane to bring in people from all over.

And even further south, the late, great Louie Prima had a golf course.
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Old 12-27-2012, 02:20 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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Mid-1940s. Guy McAfee, who owned several casinos downtown, including the Golden Nugget, named it after the Sunset Strip in Los Angeles. McAfee was a former L.A. policeman.

I've never heard Fremont Street called The Strip, but maybe others have.
Thanks. I had forgotten about him.
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Old 12-27-2012, 02:43 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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Good question!

I personally have never known the details, been the strip since I can remember in my life ( Since late 70's)

The Downtown vs. The Strip thing has always been a source of confusion for tourist.

I don't know how many times I have talked to an out-of-towner and they will refer to what we in Vegas most commonly call just 'downtown' as "The Old Strip", "Old Vegas"or some other name.

I don't know when people started calling "Downtown" by the name of "Fremont" either. The name Fremont has also been correct my entire life, but I take it that just before my time nobody called it Fremont. Obviously it is named after the road that is named after John C Fremont but the road was always there.

I personally always liked the name "Glitter Gulch"

I wonder how long that title has been floated around? Before my time at least.

Downtown Vegas is nostalgic, and become more so everyday. I hope they keep it like that and never change it except to tweak it to the modern taste of the time to some degree. It is smart to keep a rare old specimen of Americana preserved for future generations to see.
You are correct that the street is named for General John C. Fremont, the mid 1800's explorer (not sure 'explorer' is really the term for him), but downtown is not called "Fremont". A section of Fremont Street in downtown Las Vegas is called the Fremont Street Experience, which is actually a corporate name. The corporation includes, but not solely, the casinos within the Fremont Street Experience since their cooperation was needed to close it off from traffic, and to control their lighting, etc., etc.

It has been called Glitter Gulch since before I arrived in 1964, but that also sounds like some early PR man's term. It sure isn't now, with the Fremont Street Experience canopy, but back in the 60's a photographer used his light meter to determine that it was brighter on Fremont St. between LV BL and Main St. than it was at high noon in July. You could actually feel the heat difference too. The brightest sign was the Golden Nugget's back when that casino was just a one story grind joint on the corner of 3rd and Fremont.

Speaking of Fremont, his soldiers lost a cannon in the Sierra. Historians think it was found in the 20th Century. So UNLV and UNR play football to see who gets to keep the Fremont Cannon that year. But it is really just a duplicate. I think I read that they found another cannon in those mountains so are not sure which was Fremont's. But I may have dreamed that.
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Old 12-27-2012, 02:44 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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NOOO NOOOO Old Vegas is out by Bonnie Srings Ranch
Yes, but do you remember where Old Nevada was located?
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Old 12-27-2012, 02:59 AM
 
Location: Kingman AZ
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YEP Boulder Highway at the top end of Hooterville....and it was a VERY well done fort with GREAT messican food.....
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Old 12-28-2012, 02:51 PM
 
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YEP Boulder Highway at the top end of Hooterville....and it was a VERY well done fort with GREAT messican food.....
I think it was a little better than Old Vegas, but I guess it didn't do well, or as is the usual case, probably wasn't managed well.
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Old 12-28-2012, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Kingman AZ
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AS I recall....there was some kind of hanky, or panky ,,,,,, I ate there my last night before going to NJ and when I came back it was gone.....
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