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Old 04-08-2013, 11:37 PM
 
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We considered both briefly but (obviously) chose Las Vegas.

For green area look at Peccole Ranch/The Lakes area. We have many old growth trees and lots of grass in our area. This does not replace an actual green state by any means but, we feel quite at home coming from Green Vermont.

Las Vegas gets chilly in the winter - down to the mid/high 30's to low 40's at times. Quite a bit cooler than Phoenix as I understand. Of course, it's also a little bit cooler in the summer as well.

As for music Vegas has tons of options for good live music. I had never been to a concert prior to moving here a year an and a half ago and I've now been to 5 or 6. Even headliners are no problem as they play at the casinos which are designed to handle capacity crowds. You're in and out in no time.
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Old 04-08-2013, 11:50 PM
 
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Interesting replies so far, though a bit mixed.

I suppose what it comes down to is .... is the casino strip area a decent sustitute for a thriving downtown?

And to explain my thinking, we're here in Phoenix with very little to do tbh apart from visiting mountains & lakes. And that's great, we're not ungrateful for that. We like scenery a lot. But it feels like there's nowhere to really go at the weekend, you know?

If we located in Vegas we could have the same good weather, an even cheaper home, and the Vegas strip to visit. Plus a little closer to Cali too.

We don't want to do it if the casinos bore the pants off the locals haha. Because we'll get equally bored. But the locals say it's more entertaining than Phoenix, then maybe we should get up and move.....
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Old 04-08-2013, 11:51 PM
 
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that's such an interesting observation... the downtown is about as exciting as downtown albuquerque... except for the handful of las vegas casinos.
Its very true. Many locals don't care for the casinos downtown or anywhere else for that matter.
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Old 04-09-2013, 12:03 AM
 
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Its very true. Many locals don't care for the casinos downtown or anywhere else for that matter.
We only go to casino's for concerts, movies, occasional meal out or when family/friends are visiting. I think that's true for many locals.
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Old 04-09-2013, 12:05 AM
 
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Interesting replies so far, though a bit mixed.

I suppose what it comes down to is .... is the casino strip area a decent sustitute for a thriving downtown?

And to explain my thinking, we're here in Phoenix with very little to do tbh apart from visiting mountains & lakes. And that's great, we're not ungrateful for that. We like scenery a lot. But it feels like there's nowhere to really go at the weekend, you know?

If we located in Vegas we could have the same good weather, an even cheaper home, and the Vegas strip to visit. Plus a little closer to Cali too.

We don't want to do it if the casinos bore the pants off the locals haha. Because we'll get equally bored. But the locals say it's more entertaining than Phoenix, then maybe we should get up and move.....
Truth is the casinos around Phoenix are fairly close to what you get at a Las Vegas locals casino. Its obviously the Strip resorts you don't get there. So if you generally avoid the casinos in Phoenix then its pretty safe to assume you will avoid them in LV too.

As someone who used to live in LV and visited Phoenix quite a bit for sporting events or business, I can tell you without a real compelling reason to move its best to stay put. There were times my wife would say why don't we live in Phoenix instead for the amenities it has which you can't find in Vegas, but I'd just kind of think in the end its not different enough to go through the uprooting which comes from a move.

If you are going to move find someplace which fills the holes in your life better, not just one which improves things ever so slightly here while giving up a few things there.
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Old 04-09-2013, 12:29 AM
 
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I find Las Vegas less sophisticated compared to Phoenix (I used to live in Phoenx) I think Phoenix is prettier than Las Vegas, and cleaner. In Phoenix it's nice areas are nicer on a more consistent bases. You don't have nice developments mixed in with not so nice developments. Your upscale areas, Scottsdale, Fountain Hills, Ahwatukee, Gilbert, Paradise Valley, Cave Creek, are very nice and then even nicer. The people in the stores there are all clean cut and upper middle class to very wealthy. Here in Vegas, no matter what upscale area you live in you will find more of a mixture of people within the area, (Joe Tattoo in the store with Lady Vanderbuilt, and everything in between)

Weather, I think Phoenix weather is nicer, as you have much nicer winters there. Not nearly as cold.
The summers are only a couple 2 to 4 degrees hotter in Phoenix compared to Las Vegas.
On a positive side,, I find people in stores, doctor's offices etc., very polite and helpful here. I have only experienced one rude person since living here. I can't attest to the entertainment, as I have yet to get out to enjoy any of that, but downtown anywhere here is not too appealing to me. Downtown tends to be dirty and run down, and not somewhere you would feel comfortable strolling around on a Sunday afternoon.

They have some nicer shopping areas, but I wouldn't refer to that as "downtown".

There tends to be more choice in terms of shopping in so far as you can have your budget stores (Dollar Stores, Food For Less, Winco) in the same areas as you might find Whole Foods. In Phoenix not so much. If you want to go to a Dollar Store, or Winco, you will have to drive to the less upscale areas to find one.
So I guess you would say that Las Vegas is less segregated than Phoenix. I think Las Vegas is less green.

That is particularly evident in the shopping centers. A lot of pavement but not too much in pretty landscaping or trees planted for shade. These are my observations after living in both cities.
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Old 04-10-2013, 01:02 PM
 
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I find Las Vegas less sophisticated compared to Phoenix (I used to live in Phoenx) I think Phoenix is prettier than Las Vegas, and cleaner. In Phoenix it's nice areas are nicer on a more consistent bases. You don't have nice developments mixed in with not so nice developments. Your upscale areas, Scottsdale, Fountain Hills, Ahwatukee, Gilbert, Paradise Valley, Cave Creek, are very nice and then even nicer. The people in the stores there are all clean cut and upper middle class to very wealthy. Here in Vegas, no matter what upscale area you live in you will find more of a mixture of people within the area, (Joe Tattoo in the store with Lady Vanderbuilt, and everything in between)

Weather, I think Phoenix weather is nicer, as you have much nicer winters there. Not nearly as cold.
The summers are only a couple 2 to 4 degrees hotter in Phoenix compared to Las Vegas.
On a positive side,, I find people in stores, doctor's offices etc., very polite and helpful here. I have only experienced one rude person since living here. I can't attest to the entertainment, as I have yet to get out to enjoy any of that, but downtown anywhere here is not too appealing to me. Downtown tends to be dirty and run down, and not somewhere you would feel comfortable strolling around on a Sunday afternoon.

They have some nicer shopping areas, but I wouldn't refer to that as "downtown".

There tends to be more choice in terms of shopping in so far as you can have your budget stores (Dollar Stores, Food For Less, Winco) in the same areas as you might find Whole Foods. In Phoenix not so much. If you want to go to a Dollar Store, or Winco, you will have to drive to the less upscale areas to find one.
So I guess you would say that Las Vegas is less segregated than Phoenix.
I think Las Vegas is less green.

That is particularly evident in the shopping centers. A lot of pavement but not too much in pretty landscaping or trees planted for shade. These are my observations after living in both cities.
Las Vegas is more democratic and more of a "people's city" than Phoenix.

Phoenicians, from what I hear, like to pretend they're millionaires even if they make barely $35k a year...at least Las Vegans are more honest.
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Old 04-10-2013, 03:07 PM
 
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If your wife thinks that the Phoenix area lacks "green", I suspect there's even less of it in Las Vegas. You aren't in the parts of the Phoenix area with neighborhoods with lots of grass and trees, but they are there. As far as I know, there's no flood irrigation in Las Vegas, which is how many (but not all) of those neighborhoods in Phoenix stay so green. It may be that the desert southwest as a whole is not what your wife is looking for.
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Old 04-10-2013, 06:04 PM
 
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I find Las Vegas less sophisticated compared to Phoenix (I used to live in Phoenx) I think Phoenix is prettier than Las Vegas, and cleaner. In Phoenix it's nice areas are nicer on a more consistent bases. You don't have nice developments mixed in with not so nice developments. Your upscale areas, Scottsdale, Fountain Hills, Ahwatukee, Gilbert, Paradise Valley, Cave Creek, are very nice and then even nicer. The people in the stores there are all clean cut and upper middle class to very wealthy. Here in Vegas, no matter what upscale area you live in you will find more of a mixture of people within the area, (Joe Tattoo in the store with Lady Vanderbuilt, and everything in between)

Weather, I think Phoenix weather is nicer, as you have much nicer winters there. Not nearly as cold.
The summers are only a couple 2 to 4 degrees hotter in Phoenix compared to Las Vegas.
On a positive side,, I find people in stores, doctor's offices etc., very polite and helpful here. I have only experienced one rude person since living here. I can't attest to the entertainment, as I have yet to get out to enjoy any of that, but downtown anywhere here is not too appealing to me. Downtown tends to be dirty and run down, and not somewhere you would feel comfortable strolling around on a Sunday afternoon.

They have some nicer shopping areas, but I wouldn't refer to that as "downtown".

There tends to be more choice in terms of shopping in so far as you can have your budget stores (Dollar Stores, Food For Less, Winco) in the same areas as you might find Whole Foods. In Phoenix not so much. If you want to go to a Dollar Store, or Winco, you will have to drive to the less upscale areas to find one.
So I guess you would say that Las Vegas is less segregated than Phoenix. I think Las Vegas is less green.

That is particularly evident in the shopping centers. A lot of pavement but not too much in pretty landscaping or trees planted for shade. These are my observations after living in both cities.

I most definitely agree with the highlighted part. I'll give you a couple of great examples. Look at what "they" did to what is supposed to be an iconic structure in Downtown Vegas. "They" lit up the Cleveland Clinic Lou Ruvo Center for Brain Health like a christmas tree. Horrible!!

Nearby in the arts district, the city installed two ugly paintbrushes that look like a flashlight. It is supposed to be the gateway to the Arts District and it was supposed to look like a paintbrush not that its a great choice for a gateway art piece but anyway it's all lit up like a flash light. May the artist rest in peace but still an ugly work, worse the people responsible for the hideous pieces hired an outsider. Yes there was a controversy because it cost nearly 700,000 dollars for those two "paintbrushes". They could have just hired YESCO a local company and they would have done a better job.
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Old 04-29-2013, 06:18 PM
 
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Another consideration....AZ has state income tax and NV does not.
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