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Old 04-22-2015, 10:00 PM
 
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LOL...just a "quarter" of our power...low estimate but funny. And how much water does Las Vegas get from Lake Mead. People that believe there is no problem are part of the problem.
You don't understand this do you?

No it is not a qusarter of our power. We take something less than a quarter of the dams output...but it is only a few percent of the power used in NV and is easily replaced. We are not a big deal in the power using community.
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Old 04-23-2015, 01:47 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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It is so boring to be told over and over again that we can't have light rail because.....name a reason (excuse)and LV will make it work.
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Old 04-23-2015, 08:31 AM
 
Location: Minnesota/ Las Vegas
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My wife and I are in our 60s. Older and wiser, so to speak. We have put on over 2000 miles in and around Southern Nevada over the 35 years or so we have been coming there. We will be spending our retirement winters there. There will be no surprises for us. We fully understand the culture of the area including the police and the HOAs. The people we have met in Las Vegas have been nothing but kind and pleasant to us.

And we cannot wait to get there as residents!
Isn't perspective an interesting thing?
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Old 04-23-2015, 08:41 AM
 
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It is so boring to be told over and over again that we can't have light rail because.....name a reason (excuse)and LV will make it work.
We have light rail. Known as the Monorail. We could extend it or we could build new light rail. The question is why would we.

With the exception of NYC I am unaware of any great success from light rail in the US. It is particularly difficult to see how it would work well in a sprawling SW city.

I would rather wait for the automated cabs and busses which will appear within a decade or so.
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Old 04-23-2015, 08:45 AM
 
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A rail transit system in Vegas would be a white elephant. Everyone already has cars, and the entire valley has arranged itself around there use.

Mass transit works best in a hub and spoke arrangement. Especially for locals, that just doesn't exist in Vegas. Generally you need to build the transit first, and have the city arrange itself around it. It's too late for Vegas to do that.

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I see that Phoenix voters are up for a vote this Fall on a $30 billion, long-term transportation plan, which would raise the sales tax from .4 to .7 to fund it all, which would include expanding their light rail system, to possibly Scottsdale and Glendale/Sun City. The voters approved the .4 sales tax to fund the existing rail line from north Phoenix (Camelback) to Tempe and an extension to Mesa. And look how much more spread out Phoenix is than Las Vegas!!!

Las Vegas? Let's raise the sales tax to hire more police officers!

Pooh-pooh to those here who say we don't have the density pockets to build even one line here! How about downtown Summerlin to downtown Las Vegas?

Even Tucson, where I hope to be living yet this year, has a light rail line, a city much, much smaller than Las Vegas!

What I'll miss the most here is the scenery and the climate! Moving away from a city with barely 4 inches of rain a year to a city with close to 11 inches of rain a year, that's going to take an adjustment, more humidity!

But, find myself cooling off on those humid summer days down in Nogales, at 3900 feet, doing some cantina hopping! And there's always Bisbee to the SE at 5200 feet!
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Old 04-23-2015, 08:49 AM
 
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You can't have light rail because the majority of the people in Clark County don't want it.

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It is so boring to be told over and over again that we can't have light rail because.....name a reason (excuse)and LV will make it work.
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Old 04-23-2015, 08:50 AM
 
Location: Sunrise
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Mass transit works best in a hub and spoke arrangement. Especially for locals, that just doesn't exist in Vegas. Generally you need to build the transit first, and have the city arrange itself around it. It's too late for Vegas to do that.
The cities with great transportation existed for centuries -- sometimes millennia -- prior to light rail. They managed to install transportation systems just fine. The only thing Las Vegas lacks is willpower.
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Old 04-23-2015, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Henderson, NV
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The cities with great transportation existed for centuries -- sometimes millennia -- prior to light rail. They managed to install transportation systems just fine. The only thing Las Vegas lacks is willpower.
And a need...
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Old 04-23-2015, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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A rail transit system in Vegas would be a white elephant. Everyone already has cars, and the entire valley has arranged itself around there use.
I ride the public bus to work, and back, 2 nights a week, lots of riders on those buses! Yup! They all own cars!

The most heavily used buses are on Flamingo, some estimated 12,000 riders a day. That's where you put the first light line, the most heavily used bus line!

Of course, the Strip would be #! for usage, but we all know the story about that! And thank God, in a way, Uber wasn't approved, or we'd have 2 opponents in the Valley opposed to light rail! No, make that 3, 4, 5 opponents!
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Old 04-23-2015, 09:57 AM
 
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I see that Phoenix voters are up for a vote this Fall on a $30 billion, long-term transportation plan, which would raise the sales tax from .4 to .7 to fund it all, which would include expanding their light rail system, to possibly Scottsdale and Glendale/Sun City. The voters approved the .4 sales tax to fund the existing rail line from north Phoenix (Camelback) to Tempe and an extension to Mesa. And look how much more spread out Phoenix is than Las Vegas!!!

Las Vegas? Let's raise the sales tax to hire more police officers!

Pooh-pooh to those here who say we don't have the density pockets to build even one line here! How about downtown Summerlin to downtown Las Vegas?

Even Tucson, where I hope to be living yet this year, has a light rail line, a city much, much smaller than Las Vegas!

What I'll miss the most here is the scenery and the climate! Moving away from a city with barely 4 inches of rain a year to a city with close to 11 inches of rain a year, that's going to take an adjustment, more humidity!

But, find myself cooling off on those humid summer days down in Nogales, at 3900 feet, doing some cantina hopping! And there's always Bisbee to the SE at 5200 feet!
You are reaching. And you don't appear to understand. The real message is that the Phoenix's transit system is majority funded by taxes. And it is mostly not a very good system. limited hours for instance.

Phoenix is a little better off than LV as it actually has separate but significant centers which can be connected versus the homogeneous sprawl of Las Vegas.

But again it is not an economically viable system. It will require a large and ongoing tax to fund it.
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