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Old 03-28-2014, 06:29 PM
 
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The Culinary staff is around 50% of your total workforce in a resort. Having half your staff leave is just bad business. The effect of the 1984 strip strike really hurt the state economy for many years. And In reality this will probably be a quick to sign agreement. Once Fertitia comes to terms on how much restaurant space he is willing to fill with union shop staff. This whole ordeal will all be over,
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Old 03-28-2014, 08:03 PM
 
Location: In the Silver State of Nevada in Las Vegas NV
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People have to understand the collective barging process or have been part of it. First neither side gets something handed to them they have to give up something to get something. Look at the MGM contract the unions took the free health care vs raises. Taking a strike vote is part of the process the rank and file must approve of this step the culinary negotiators can not just authorize a strike. Second Mediation has to be done usually by a federal one if both side agree. Third replacement workers (SCABS) are a joke it usually cost the companies that do this Hugh sums of money and loss of customers that it takes years to get back. No one wins in a strike and before you go out of the door you better be prepared to last it out and financial backing to do so and if you go out it had better be for a big financial reason not some contract language. Lets hope cooler heads prevail and negotiations keep moving on the strike vote is a counter measure so the management does not implement a contract during this process. In conclusion A STRIKE causes employees to lose their financial income and trust in who they work for and the Management looses big $$$ and customers lets hope it does not come to that.
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Old 03-28-2014, 08:26 PM
 
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What do the Fertitas have downtown? They're not going to be pushovers for the union. they've quite successfully kept the unions out of the Stations (much to Culinary's annoyance.)

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The Culinary staff is around 50% of your total workforce in a resort. Having half your staff leave is just bad business. The effect of the 1984 strip strike really hurt the state economy for many years. And In reality this will probably be a quick to sign agreement. Once Fertitia comes to terms on how much restaurant space he is willing to fill with union shop staff. This whole ordeal will all be over,
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Old 03-28-2014, 09:06 PM
 
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What do the Fertitas have downtown? They're not going to be pushovers for the union. they've quite successfully kept the unions out of the Stations (much to Culinary's annoyance.)

I am not referring to Frank and Lorenzo at Station Casinos. I am referring to Laundry's CEO Tillman Fertitta that currently owns the Golden Nugget. Everybody downtown is ready to sign except the Nugget. Nobody will sign until everybody is ready to sign. Fertitta wants to bring more Laundry's restaurants into the resort and operate them without the staff working under a bargaining agreement. They have agreed to staff some of the restaurants with union workers but not all of them. This issue has been a main sticking point on the strip resort agreements in the past all the way back when Michael Gaughan let Mc Donald's operate in the basement of the Barbary Coast. Its all give and take. But the Culinary has been losing ground on this issue contract after contract for the last twenty years.
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Old 03-29-2014, 04:45 PM
 
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Oh, okay. I read "Fertita" and thought Station. Are they related?
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Old 03-29-2014, 06:39 PM
 
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Oh, okay. I read "Fertita" and thought Station. Are they related?
Yes
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Old 03-30-2014, 12:46 AM
 
Location: In the Silver State of Nevada in Las Vegas NV
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In my previous post I stated if you go out on strike it had better be for a major issue like health ins or pension but from the last few post if it is over some food places and the people working there and they have not even established a presence it would be very foolish to negotiate for people who are even hired yet. The unions obligation is to negotiate for it present members who pay dues. I just hope if this is the issue that both sides do not escalate the battle and the union has to realize the rank and file has worked almost 1 year with out a raise pension raise. That year is lost you never make it back yes you get what you had but they never retro activate in a new contract.
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Old 03-30-2014, 06:27 PM
 
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In my previous post I stated if you go out on strike it had better be for a major issue like health ins or pension but from the last few post if it is over some food places and the people working there and they have not even established a presence it would be very foolish to negotiate for people who are even hired yet. The unions obligation is to negotiate for it present members who pay dues. I just hope if this is the issue that both sides do not escalate the battle and the union has to realize the rank and file has worked almost 1 year with out a raise pension raise. That year is lost you never make it back yes you get what you had but they never retro activate in a new contract.

The Culinary wants to grow. Not have jobs taken away. Anyways the unions out here are nothing like back east. Here the membership does not run the union. The union runs the membership.
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Old 03-30-2014, 08:18 PM
 
Location: Farrr Northwest Las Vegas
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Does the Culinary Union have the money to finance a major strike?
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Old 03-31-2014, 01:17 AM
 
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The Culinary wants to grow. Not have jobs taken away. Anyways the unions out here are nothing like back east. Here the membership does not run the union. The union runs the membership.
I'm in the union. I don't even think about it. The union has never told me to do anything, sign anything, vote on anything, ever. It has it's pros and cons. I never feel exploited -- and I have felt that way at other jobs. If they need me to work overtime, they pay me. I have a healthcare plan that is second to none. (OK, second to a US Senator's healthcare plan. But that's it.) I have what I consider a reasonable amount of paid vacation time. And they're pretty good about giving me extra unpaid time, because vacations are important to me.

The negative side is the reason that everyone hates unions. Yes, there are some real slack-ass nitwits working at the casinos. They have no business working in a kitchen. And it's impossible for management to rid of them unless they show up for work drunk, get into a fistfight or get caught flagrantly violating health code. Management should have fired these people before they made it past the probationary period. That's a management issue. Not a union issue.

Even so, there aren't nearly as many slack-asses as people seem to think. We have our own ways of getting rid of the dead weight.
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