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Old 10-15-2014, 05:37 AM
 
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2nd healthcare worker tests positive at Dallas Presbyterian hospital.

In fact, it's been reported that 10% of the over 4000 deaths has been health care workers.

Nah, not a very contagious disease.

 
Old 10-15-2014, 05:42 AM
 
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Absolutely correct.

They have something like a $6 BILLION budget! That is part of the problem - it is such a large bureaucracy that the can't seem to get anything done.
The funding has been cut effectively over the last ten years. And it is virtually always the new developments that take the hit when that happens.

I don't think it is political however. Curing Ebola was not a big goal. And both parties had a role in budget setting and manipulation.
 
Old 10-15-2014, 05:50 AM
 
Location: Henderson, NV, U.S.A.
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Germans don't fool around when treating ebola victims.
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Dr. Thomas Grünewald, a senior physician at the Clinic for Infectious Diseases and Nephrology at the hospital, said the patient would be tended around the clock by at least one doctor and a nurse “in protection suits.”

He said then that the staff “was perfectly prepared,” and that it had been training with a system of airlocks that hermetically sealed special negative-pressure rooms used in the isolation ward.
 
Old 10-15-2014, 06:17 AM
 
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Our CDC is just another ineffective government agency. They were woefully unprepared and unresponsive.
 
Old 10-15-2014, 08:15 AM
 
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some good reading on the subject:

The Hot Zone: The Terrifying True Story of the Origins of the Ebola Virus, by Richard Preston

The Coming Plague: Newly Emerging Diseases in a World Out of Balance, by Laurie Garrett

Spillover: Animal Infections and the Next Human Pandemic, by David Quammen
 
Old 10-15-2014, 08:48 AM
 
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The funding has been cut effectively over the last ten years. And it is virtually always the new developments that take the hit when that happens.

I don't think it is political however. Curing Ebola was not a big goal. And both parties had a role in budget setting and manipulation.
I don't think it is political either. I think it is about the CDC as an organization, and its organizational behaviour. Don't misunderstand me - the CDC has many highly competent people trying to do a good job, but that isn't the point. The point isn't individual behaviour - it is the organizational behaviour of such a large bureaucracy.
 
Old 10-15-2014, 08:55 AM
 
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imo cdc's response has been more political than operational. the director's actions, and orders, were more in line with being pc and looking good to his bosses, than aggressively addressing the virus and it's implications.
 
Old 10-15-2014, 11:41 AM
 
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The US Dept of Defense is something around 1.1 Trillion. That would tend to put the CDC budget into the rather small class. A constant economic analysis shows pretty well that the budget has been reduced...not enlarged over the last ten years. The point made by the Director was that the work for a vaccine could likely have been completed by now if the funding had been sufficient.

Yesterdays reports indicate strongly that the Dallas Hospital was not prepared to treat an Ebola case or any other high contagion disease. Is that the fault of CDC? CDC has now put together a quick response team apparently driven by the Dallas experience. Should CDC have had that standing by? I expect such a capability is expense. Do you do it in a time of falling budgets?
 
Old 10-15-2014, 12:45 PM
 
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Nurses: We Were Told to Call Authorities for Ebola Protocol

According to the statement, “
there was no advanced preparedness on what to do with the patient. There was no protocol, there was no system. The nurses were asked to call the Infectious Disease Department. The Infectious Disease Department did not have clear policies to provide either.

”, breitbart.com/, with the help of freeproxyserver
 
Old 10-15-2014, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Henderson, NV, U.S.A.
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The US Dept of Defense is something around 1.1 Trillion. That would tend to put the CDC budget into the rather small class. A constant economic analysis shows pretty well that the budget has been reduced...not enlarged over the last ten years. The point made by the Director was that the work for a vaccine could likely have been completed by now if the funding had been sufficient.

Yesterdays reports indicate strongly that the Dallas Hospital was not prepared to treat an Ebola case or any other high contagion disease. Is that the fault of CDC? CDC has now put together a quick response team apparently driven by the Dallas experience. Should CDC have had that standing by? I expect such a capability is expense. Do you do it in a time of falling budgets?
You take care of business. You don't hope and pray that a random Texas hospital knows how to handle a level 4 virus, which are only used in sealed negative pressure rooms with workers in space suits. You don't hope and pray that the right people who were exposed are monitored. You don't hope and pray that the health care workers are automatically added to the monitored list, and you don't add health care workers to the monitored list only after one of them become infected. You don't blame the nurse for improper protocol with an off the cuff remark, when you don't know how she contracted the virus. After the cdc director gets fired, um, resigns, I hope they get someone competent.

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