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Old 08-01-2017, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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The third antenna is the charm. The first 2 I bought must have been garbage. At last I found a good one, a Mohu Leaf 50. It's an indoor antenna with an amplifier. I hooked it up yesterday and I was shocked when the scan said I had 60 channels. And most of them are watchable.

NBC and CBS are great and they are actually in HD. But ABC and all the other # 13 channels are so pixelated they can't be watched. I looked up the transmitter and I think it's on Black Mountain. Do you get ABC on your antenna? I am trying to figure out if this is a common problem or something specific to my location! Thanks!
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Old 08-01-2017, 01:21 PM
 
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Why watch Fake News?
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Old 08-01-2017, 01:45 PM
 
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I consistently have problems with Channel 13. Channel 13 actually broadcasts on VHF channel 13, so if you can feed in a dipole antenna specifically cut to size for Channel 13, it may help. Any off-the-shelf antenna you buy is going to be a compromise antenna for VHF-HI and the center frequency of said antenna is likely to be in the middle of the frequencies for channels 7-13, which means that it will receive the worst reception of all the VHF-HI channels on channels 7 & 13.
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Old 08-01-2017, 04:26 PM
 
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I consistently have problems with Channel 13. Channel 13 actually broadcasts on VHF channel 13, so if you can feed in a dipole antenna specifically cut to size for Channel 13, it may help. Any off-the-shelf antenna you buy is going to be a compromise antenna for VHF-HI and the center frequency of said antenna is likely to be in the middle of the frequencies for channels 7-13, which means that it will receive the worst reception of all the VHF-HI channels on channels 7 & 13.
That makes sense. Thanks!
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Old 08-01-2017, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Henderson
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I get ABC easily, but it's line of sight from my house (Anthem area) I have trouble getting Fox and NBC that are not line of sight.
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Old 08-01-2017, 05:22 PM
 
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The third antenna is the charm. The first 2 I bought must have been garbage. At last I found a good one, a Mohu Leaf 50. It's an indoor antenna with an amplifier. I hooked it up yesterday and I was shocked when the scan said I had 60 channels. And most of them are watchable.

NBC and CBS are great and they are actually in HD. But ABC and all the other # 13 channels are so pixelated they can't be watched. I looked up the transmitter and I think it's on Black Mountain. Do you get ABC on your antenna? I am trying to figure out if this is a common problem or something specific to my location! Thanks!
There are two things that work with these flat antennas. Get them high and facing the TV source. People also claim good results against windows.

I am at least ten miles further away then you and get all major channels cleanly. What I have is an ancient log periodic at about thirty feet. Even has one element broken off. So it is pretty much always a height issue. And they call these thing multi-directional. What that tells you is they receive from all directions but not uniformly...so play around. If you can reasonably get to the attic that often works great.
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Old 08-02-2017, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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There are two things that work with these flat antennas. Get them high and facing the TV source. People also claim good results against windows.

I am at least ten miles further away then you and get all major channels cleanly. What I have is an ancient log periodic at about thirty feet. Even has one element broken off. So it is pretty much always a height issue. And they call these thing multi-directional. What that tells you is they receive from all directions but not uniformly...so play around. If you can reasonably get to the attic that often works great.
I am holding out on the attic thing as a last resort because I hate putting holes in the ceiling but I can if I have to. I have a ladder in the room and I am moving it a bit every day but still no improvements on the #13 transmitter.

I think you are also at a higher elevation than me!
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Old 08-02-2017, 06:37 PM
 
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I get all of the available 2-13 channels with just a small indoor antenna 2 doesn't come in well but all of the rest are good ...... I'm near sunrise Mt.
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Old 08-04-2017, 09:20 AM
 
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Our antennas are in the attic but it does negatively affect signal strength. Some things to consider:
Even very small adjustments to your antenna can affect your ability to pick up a signal.
Not all antennas pick up VHF stations, especially the small flat indoor antennas.
A signal amplifier might help. Get a good one. I wasted money on a cheap one that was useless.
There are web sites that will help you to determine where the broadcast antennas are in relationship to where you live.
To get the best signal, you want line of sight to the broadcast antennas.
If you install an antenna in your attic, avoid metal ducting, pipes, stucco wire etc that can degrade your signal. I mounted our antennas as high as I could, pointed through the roof (as much as I could anyway)
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Old 08-04-2017, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Our antennas are in the attic but it does negatively affect signal strength. Some things to consider:
Even very small adjustments to your antenna can affect your ability to pick up a signal.
Not all antennas pick up VHF stations, especially the small flat indoor antennas.
A signal amplifier might help. Get a good one. I wasted money on a cheap one that was useless.
There are web sites that will help you to determine where the broadcast antennas are in relationship to where you live.
To get the best signal, you want line of sight to the broadcast antennas.
If you install an antenna in your attic, avoid metal ducting, pipes, stucco wire etc that can degrade your signal. I mounted our antennas as high as I could, pointed through the roof (as much as I could anyway)
The first 2 I bought were useless. I learned the hard way! The Leaf 50 does have an amplifier that plugs into a USB port on the TV. I have been moving it around every day to see if it makes a difference but so far no luck on ABC.

If that's the best I can can do, that's OK. I mostly wanted local news and weather anyway.
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