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Old 08-17-2017, 08:44 PM
 
Location: NW Oregon
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I'm a liberal and I hate conservatives with all my heart, as I imagine you likely hate me too. I think the one thing we can agree on is that it's time for a soft secession. Let there be a liberal and conservative United States and whoever wants to go to the other side can, and we can be done with one another forever. You get your conservative Utopia and we get our liberal one. It's the only way.
Sounds a lot like racism... The people you don't like (Hate) should live elsewhere so you don't have to tolerate differences? What kind of government is going to split the United States up so each side can have their own safe space? In politics there is no compromise, it's one way or the other. The majority rules and generally anyone who disagrees can go pound sand. Splitting people up based on beliefs is not the answer. We need to find common ground and fast, or we're up the creek without a paddle. Hating anyone is an exercise in futility, and only results in misery.
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Old 08-17-2017, 09:39 PM
 
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If we had a majority rules situation the Democratic candidate would win almost every presidential election, though. I know you wouldn't want that.
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Old 08-17-2017, 09:42 PM
 
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Sounds a lot like racism... The people you don't like (Hate) should live elsewhere so you don't have to tolerate differences? What kind of government is going to split the United States up so each side can have their own safe space? In politics there is no compromise, it's one way or the other. The majority rules and generally anyone who disagrees can go pound sand. Splitting people up based on beliefs is not the answer. We need to find common ground and fast, or we're up the creek without a paddle. Hating anyone is an exercise in futility, and only results in misery.

I actually agreed with the reason the south originally became the Confederacy and left, the fact that a lot of those issues haven't been resolved is the reason why a lot of things are the way they are today. 200 some years later and we basically still have a country deeply divided on unresolved issues from nearly two centuries back. It seems irreconcilable and I would have been fine letting them go, things would have been much better today in my opinion. That's all hypothetical though, so who knows.
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Old 08-17-2017, 09:52 PM
 
Location: Henderson, NV
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If we had a majority rules situation the Democratic candidate would win almost every presidential election, though. I know you wouldn't want that.
Please stop and move your discussion to politics or great debates.
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Old 08-17-2017, 10:19 PM
 
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In 20 years, will Las Vegas (and the US) look more like Europe, Singapore, China or the US of the early 1900's/ 1800's?

and what will that mean in terms of quality of life, liberty, freedom and creativity?
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Old 08-17-2017, 10:38 PM
 
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So we can all agree we should stop the hate and find a cure for Liberalism?
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Old 08-18-2017, 12:08 AM
 
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Bio-Dome.
That would be cool. Like Total Recall


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I'm a liberal and I hate conservatives with all my heart, as I imagine you likely hate me too. I think the one thing we can agree on is that it's time for a soft secession. Let there be a liberal and conservative United States and whoever wants to go to the other side can, and we can be done with one another forever. You get your conservative Utopia and we get our liberal one. It's the only way.
That's what cities are for. Urban is liberal and rural is conservative. One lives closer to people while the other wants to live further from them. Expand and contract. The world needs its duality. Yin Yang. It's really not so black and white.

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Will Las Vegas become a major US City, or remain a fringe metropolis?
Both?

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In 20 years, will Las Vegas (and the US) look more like Europe, Singapore, China or the US of the early 1900's/ 1800's?

and what will that mean in terms of quality of life, liberty, freedom, and creativity?
I read an article once that Las Vegas represents the most American city out of all of them. So I'm going to go with Las Vegas will be like the US the most.

Las Vegas will finish the Neon Highway. They will build the Raiders Stadium. They will start to identify with being this emerging sports city with the NFL team and a local Hockey team. I've been watching and the local Hockey team is going to be a lot of fun for everyone locally these next few years. Kind of getting this soccer mom following with whole families and various stores wearing merchandise on game days and they take some local pride in them.

I can see UNLV relying heavily on their football team doing well with the opportunities that the Raiders stadium brings it rather than their academics. Though their new medical school is going to raise it's academic profile once the 100 million dollar research medical school is completed.

Which leads me into the development of the Las Vegas Medical District being further developed and a plan to draw people. They've already agreed to expand it to 637 acres for designated development. That area will continue to attract the educated class but not the tech sector that you're seeing in coastal cities. Instead, it will be doctors and lawyers like it is now some what. They've already put the new city government office down there. Then there are several mixed residential and commercial structures of 5 stories or taller going in.

Symphony Park will be one of the larger developments I see coming and being timed with the new medical school/research hospital. Building a proper medical university center.

There's also development planned for Las Vegas Blvd north starting with Fontainebleau being completed. Then Resort World is completed. That will depend on the value of Malaysian money. There's some testing going on here with drawing in the Asian markets, specifically the Chinese. That's going to be a learning curve for all.

I see downtown getting a face lift to look like the lighted streets and shops of South Korea in some parts. I see it also as a designated cannabis corridor. The tourism industry figures the canna thing out here much quicker than the rest of the States that legalize it.

I see the monorail extension being massively successful. I see more bus routes. I can also see a neon lighted gondola up and down the Strip.

The Wynn gets a face lift with the lake. There is a new hotel casino property for extreme sports going in near the new Stadium made out of shipping containers. Someone buys the bali hai golf course to develop something else near the stadium. Bellagio does away with the iconic fountain to put in a new shopping center but it's a cool shopping center that's an experience in itself. They do it really beautifully too.

Overall, I see Las Vegas grows in the next 20 years. Right now the infrastructure fits the city with some expected congestion and traffic in the expected areas. The police force will need to grow with it. There's also the construction of the direct shot highway to Phoenix, AZ that's completed. HWY 11 I believe? I see they'll have to work on the bottleneck in Primm and expand the highway to an additional lane possibly in some part to California. Maybe we'll see a high speed railway from California to Las Vegas. Maybe, not? They've played with it for the past several years.

There's also going to be more traffic from California with games. Of course, more economic refugees from other State priced out of their States and cities. That's always going to be the case because we're not getting any smaller.

I can't say for sure about the robots. I know autonomous cars are issued out really starting this year but not scheduled to be mainstream until more 2025 with all makers having their own versions similar to the hybrid rollouts. There are some robot pilots already emerging with the robot bar. I believe this will depend on society adapting to them as quickly as computers and smart phones with the new updated versions being issued every 18 months. It's a lot to keep up with. The Amazon Whole Foods merger is one to watch because that may change the way entire industries shop. Then there's the single man drone taxis that may become a real thing if Amazon goes fully drone deliveries.

Hmm, what else...? I'll let you know if I think of anything else.
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Old 08-18-2017, 12:30 AM
 
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That would be cool. Like Total Recall




That's what cities are for. Urban is liberal and rural is conservative. One lives closer to people while the other wants to live further from them. Expand and contract. The world needs its duality. Yin Yang. It's really not so black and white.



Both?



I read an article once that Las Vegas represents the most American city out of all of them. So I'm going to go with Las Vegas will be like the US the most.

Las Vegas will finish the Neon Highway. They will build the Raiders Stadium. They will start to identify with being this emerging sports city with the NFL team and a local Hockey team. I've been watching and the local Hockey team is going to be a lot of fun for everyone locally these next few years. Kind of getting this soccer mom following with whole families and various stores wearing merchandise on game days and they take some local pride in them.

I can see UNLV relying heavily on their football team doing well with the opportunities that the Raiders stadium brings it rather than their academics. Though their new medical school is going to raise it's academic profile once the 100 million dollar research medical school is completed.

Which leads me into the development of the Las Vegas Medical District being further developed and a plan to draw people. They've already agreed to expand it to 637 acres for designated development. That area will continue to attract the educated class but not the tech sector that you're seeing in coastal cities. Instead, it will be doctors and lawyers like it is now some what. They've already put the new city government office down there. Then there are several mixed residential and commercial structures of 5 stories or taller going in.

Symphony Park will be one of the larger developments I see coming and being timed with the new medical school/research hospital. Building a proper medical university center.

There's also development planned for Las Vegas Blvd north starting with Fontainebleau being completed. Then Resort World is completed. That will depend on the value of Malaysian money. There's some testing going on here with drawing in the Asian markets, specifically the Chinese. That's going to be a learning curve for all.

I see downtown getting a face lift to look like the lighted streets and shops of South Korea in some parts. I see it also as a designated cannabis corridor. The tourism industry figures the canna thing out here much quicker than the rest of the States that legalize it.

I see the monorail extension being massively successful. I see more bus routes. I can also see a neon lighted gondola up and down the Strip.

The Wynn gets a face lift with the lake. There is a new hotel casino property for extreme sports going in near the new Stadium made out of shipping containers. Someone buys the bali hai golf course to develop something else near the stadium. Bellagio does away with the iconic fountain to put in a new shopping center but it's a cool shopping center that's an experience in itself. They do it really beautifully too.

Overall, I see Las Vegas grows in the next 20 years. Right now the infrastructure fits the city with some expected congestion and traffic in the expected areas. The police force will need to grow with it. There's also the construction of the direct shot highway to Phoenix, AZ that's completed. HWY 11 I believe? I see they'll have to work on the bottleneck in Primm and expand the highway to an additional lane possibly in some part to California. Maybe we'll see a high speed railway from California to Las Vegas. Maybe, not? They've played with it for the past several years.

There's also going to be more traffic from California with games. Of course, more economic refugees from other State priced out of their States and cities. That's always going to be the case because we're not getting any smaller.

I can't say for sure about the robots. I know autonomous cars are issued out really starting this year but not scheduled to be mainstream until more 2025 with all makers having their own versions similar to the hybrid rollouts. There are some robot pilots already emerging with the robot bar. I believe this will depend on society adapting to them as quickly as computers and smart phones with the new updated versions being issued every 18 months. It's a lot to keep up with. The Amazon Whole Foods merger is one to watch because that may change the way entire industries shop. Then there's the single man drone taxis that may become a real thing if Amazon goes fully drone deliveries.

Hmm, what else...? I'll let you know if I think of anything else.


Interesting take and quite positive outlook..

What's w/ the Malaysian, Chinese and Korean (shops?) money coming in?

What are they investing in?

There are more direct flights direct to Asia now from Las Vegas... which is great..

The city will need good planning to grow w/ quality of life in mind..
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Old 08-18-2017, 12:58 AM
 
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Interesting take and quite positive outlook..

What's w/ the Malaysian, Chinese and Korean (shops?) money coming in?

What are they investing in?

There are more direct flights direct to Asia now from Las Vegas... which is great..

The city will need good planning to grow w/ quality of life in mind..
Well, Resort World is Malaysian investors and Malaysian currency is fickle. They haven't had much luck and they're superstitious. Thus...the delay for Resort World, but the project is back.

The direct flights with China were set up with the whole Lucky Dragon tourism. That encouraged Resort World somewhat I bet. There are also investors building luxury condos off of Spring Mountain Rd in the China Town. Which reminds me that empty shopping center next to Korean Town and Krispy Creme close to Walmart needs to be bought up and developed into housing. I'd live right there next to Greenland and Walmart and a straight shot to China town.

As for the quality of living, the city needs to attract businesses and jobs outside the hotel casinos it has. As long as it is invested in developing a core that is diversifying it will thrive. I'm hoping they learned their lesson from the one trick pony tanking with the economy.

Water resources have been brought up as a potential issue. It's built to sustain double the current population but then that's it. So if the city wants to grow further it will definitely have to figure that one out before hand.

But yea. I see lots of good times for Las Vegas in the next 20 years as I see they're on the right course. There's really lots of exciting things happening. Oh, I nearly forgot the Main Street Arts District development that's expanding. So far I've really liked what I've seen but it's not drawing people in. So I'm not sure if Las Vegas is going to draw that hipster sector ever really. I could see them picking up again when it gets closer to Symphony Park and the Medical School is done.

Eventually, Millennials will discover Las Vegas. They're the largest generation. Double the size of the Baby Boomers. They need somewhere to live. The retirement community already discovered this place. The cities are growing and the youth are going to be looking for value and experiences and Las Vegas has it. With access to cheap flights in and out of there, proximity to Southern California, Mexico, and to the outdoor lifestyle not only in the local surrounding areas but AZ, Utah, and further north to Idaho and Oregon. If you could buy now I would say buy. If you could build or buy a multi-family dwelling of 6 -10 units to manage I'd say do it.

Right now Las Vegas is a really good place to move even for low to the middle-income family. There are so many grocery stores and shopping options there. The shopping is really great on all levels. I don't see that changing because it attracts people from all over the world.

Oh, and about the South Korea lighted shops and streets. I think that would be a really cool thing to bring to the downtown area. Tesla could make a community partnership to showcase their solar powered technology. I could see lighted solar powered roads. Maybe a couple designated blocks like the canna corridor. They'd make the streets glow like the canopy of lights glow on the Fremont Street Experience. So you have the experience above and below you and all around you. On the shop walls even. Someone's face in an advertisement could span across several store fronts dancing all around you, under and over. The stores inside look like apple stores. You drink those bubble teas and eat pad thai and smoke some bud. Now that would be a cool Arts District in my opinion. But it doesn't matter where it goes really. It could be Main St. It could be Fremont St. It could be anywhere downtown that they designate to be this cool modern lighted up area. Maybe it will be incorporated into Resort World because they're doing a modern Shanghai theme?

black light subway?

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Old 08-18-2017, 01:27 AM
 
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I will say one thing for certain. Las Vegas is a place to be proud to live in, and I believe it will continue to be a place to be proud of living in as it's only going to get better from what I can tell in the last three years we lived there. Las Vegas is pretty freaking awesome!
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