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Old 09-05-2017, 01:51 AM
 
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I was with you until you started criticizing Summerlin's amenities.

Summerlin has a Costco, Lifetime Athletic, the new Golden Knights hockey rink, and the newest Stations Casino right next to each other. Downtown Summerlin is far from aging, they just opened a few years ago. The 51s will eventually move there when they build a new minor league stadium next to Red Rock.

They have a half dozen golf courses, several recreation centers and pools, the best access to Red Rock, miles of walking trails and acres of parks, and the highest rated schools. It's 15 minutes to downtown and they have a direct highway as opposed to stop-and-go surface streets.

If you want to criticize their housing, I'll join. It's all cookie cutter 2 story homes with no privacy on postage stamp lots. But even so, I'd rather be in Summerlin with trees that are 20 years old than the new construction going up in the SW on even smaller lots with less privacy than Summerlin. There's far too many apartments going up in the SW for my liking.
Station casinos suck. There are at least 5 or 6 gyms down here... UFC, EOS, Planet Fitness, I think there is a lifetime down here somewhere too.. could be wrong... but there are a few more than that, even so. You may have the practice rink, but down here, we can just go skate on the real rink at T-mobile arena. There are several parks here in SW and some walking trails, too. No, we won't have the 51's, but then again, its about 7 mins to Summerlin when they finally move there. The only golfing down here is Rhodes Ranch, but golf is a dying sport. At any rate, its not too difficult to drive to any of the golf courses in Las Vegas with the excellent highway access here.

i don't know if I consider direct access on summerlin pkwy/DI a plus. Its enabling the riff-raff to access you directly from downtown where they are living. Its not a long drive to downtown from the SW but enough to be an obstacle for the casual gangbanger.

I don't care for the apartments either, but they are also going up all over "South Summerlin" in much higher quantities than the SW. Mixed income urban planning is the foreseeable future in all cities at this time - this is the current trend in city planning.

I'm not trying to get into a dick size comparison match over sections of town, I'm just saying that SW, and most other sections of town have nearly all of the same things Summerlin does. This whole city is basically cookie-cutter houses and strip malls aside from very few sections. What Summerlin does have going for it is that it is older, established, and built out. It also has a very strong set of HOAs, if you are into that kind of thing. Not all of us are.

There are plenty of very large houses on 1/2-3/4-1 acre lots down here in Enterprise on rural zoned lots. if you want to go south of Blue Diamond, or east of Decatur, south of Warm Springs you will also find many with horses, etc.

I'm in a 2000 sqft house, but the 2 developments adjacent to me are all 3500-4500 sqft homes. Small lots, maybe, but I don't think you'll find any new construction on large lots unless you buy the land yourself and build a craftsman home.
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Old 09-05-2017, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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If you want a boat, an RV, or to leave your garage open, then summerlin is not even an option. While there are lovely areas in summerlin, there are some that are also not so great.
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Old 09-05-2017, 08:04 PM
 
Location: Henderson, NV
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Station casinos suck. There are at least 5 or 6 gyms down here... UFC, EOS, Planet Fitness, I think there is a lifetime down here somewhere too.. could be wrong... but there are a few more than that, even so. You may have the practice rink, but down here, we can just go skate on the real rink at T-mobile arena. There are several parks here in SW and some walking trails, too. No, we won't have the 51's, but then again, its about 7 mins to Summerlin when they finally move there. The only golfing down here is Rhodes Ranch, but golf is a dying sport. At any rate, its not too difficult to drive to any of the golf courses in Las Vegas with the excellent highway access here.
You made me spit out my water at the bold text. What adult leagues do the Kings run out of the Staples Center? When do the Blackhawks open up the United Center for the youth leagues to practice?

I get that the southwest works for you. I'm also on board with many of your criticisms of Summerlin. I also too agree that I'd much rather be living on a half acre with privacy than on a cookie cutter small home in Summerlin. Unless I'm in the flight route.

But the false equivalencies in amenities... I mean... really?

One golf course (Rhodes Ranch) is not the same as 7 golf courses (including 2 TPC courses).

3 parks is not the same as 19 parks.

150 miles of trails is not the same as... what trails are in the SW?

Planet Fitness is not the same as LifeTime. And you are wrong. The only LifeTime facilities are in Green Valley Ranch and Summerlin.

The Silverton is not the same as Red Rock.

Smith's is not the same as Costco.

Faiss MS (8/10) and Sierra Vista HS (5/10) is not the same as Rogich MS (10/10) and Palo Verde HS (8/10).

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Old 09-06-2017, 07:15 AM
 
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A lot of interesting comments.

I've been checking out options in vegas over the past few years, but am no expert at all.

Why do station casinos suck? As one poster stated. I have always found the stations to be ok.

Comparing Enterprise verses Lone Mountain, what do the people on the ground see as differences? What is the average drive time to the strip from both areas? Is the housing cost and quality similar? What about the future in terms of worsening traffic, which area is less likely to be impacted? Is crime worse in one vicinity verses another?

That listing the one poster put up was super nice and very close to the type of property I'd find to be ideal.

Thanks,
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Old 09-06-2017, 08:09 AM
 
Location: Vienna
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As far as I can see as of now, 89129 seems to be the best available option for large yards:

1. close to desert shores with wonderful lakes
2. 7 min to Smith
3. 11 min to Summerlin / Suncoast / Tivoli village
4. Crime rate the same as summerlin
5. Many new stunning properties half the price of summerlin

So basically you get a large yard, and a newer stunning Beverly hills like property for half the price,
but within a 10 min drive you are in summerlin and can do shopping in tivoli village
or use all of the other summerlin advantages without paying the extra or living in a cookie cutter.

89129 seems not to have low class housing, many houses 400-800k, several in the millions.
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Old 09-06-2017, 08:19 AM
 
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A lot of interesting comments.

I've been checking out options in vegas over the past few years, but am no expert at all.

Why do station casinos suck? As one poster stated. I have always found the stations to be ok.

Comparing Enterprise verses Lone Mountain, what do the people on the ground see as differences? What is the average drive time to the strip from both areas? Is the housing cost and quality similar? What about the future in terms of worsening traffic, which area is less likely to be impacted? Is crime worse in one vicinity verses another?

That listing the one poster put up was super nice and very close to the type of property I'd find to be ideal.

Thanks,
The comments are interesting, that's for sure! Everyone has their own opinion based on what's important to them. We picked the southwest because it was "newer" and seemed less densely packed than the other areas we looked at. We'd actually tried to purchase in the far NW side, but some shady games by a couple RE agents set off the alarm bells, so we ended up where we are.

What's funny is all of the amenities in Summerlin are 10 minutes away. We don't feel deprived there at all. As far as the airport, if you notice they have runways that go 4 different directions, so almost the entire valley at some point has air traffic overhead. And airplanes like to take off and land into the wind, so if the wind is from the east, guess which way they'll be going that day?

As far as car traffic, we try and avoid it, but from here, the flow is towards the east in the morning, opposite in the evening. Just look at google maps, and turn on the traffic filter at different times in the day, and you can see the congestion points. While we've been to the strip about three times in the nearly two years we've lived here, it takes longer once you get near the strip to get where you are going than it does to get to that point. We rarely waste our money gambling, so our trips to a casino are usually to go to the movies, and both red rock and silverton have good ones, with an edge to red rock we think.

As far as crime goes, it seems the more dense you pack the people, the more crime goes up, since there are more targets for the criminals. It also seems like a lot of it goes on within those "gated" communities that many think are so secure. I don't think there is any way to completely isolate yourself from the possibility of criminals, so I think it's just best to always be prepared for them.

There's an old saying in the car business that goes something like "there's a butt for every seat". The same could be said about the various locations being hotly debated. So far, we're happy with our choice, and plan to stay here until we're not, but we also know there are other places that are just as suitable.
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Old 09-06-2017, 08:50 AM
 
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Just to clarify a bit. Both 89129 and 89149 have the RNP. The northern section of 89129 and the southern and western sections of 89149. The RNP areas of the two are indistinguishable.

Both 89129 and 89149 have substantial areas with housing that is on smaller lots and less expensive than the RNP. That is on the south, east and west edges of 89129 and the east and north portion of 89149.
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Old 09-06-2017, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Vienna
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Just to clarify a bit. Both 89129 and 89149 have the RNP. The northern section of 89129 and the southern and western sections of 89149. The RNP areas of the two are indistinguishable.

Both 89129 and 89149 have substantial areas with housing that is on smaller lots and less expensive than the RNP. That is on the south, east and west edges of 89129 and the east and north portion of 89149.
Thanks for clarification, yes the RNP seems to the interesting part in this area.
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Old 09-06-2017, 09:11 AM
 
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You mentioned seeking a 1/2 acre property in Summerlin. The senior members will know this for sure, but I don't think they exist there. The density is a lot greater there than in Lone Mountain from what I've seen.

One more plus, speaking of "location location location." Lone Mountain is near both the 215 and the 95, with fast and easy access to most of Las Vegas. Getting to University Medical Center (UMC), the primary ER facility in Las Vegas, takes about 15 minutes. 5-10 minutes to MountainView Hp, 20 min to Summerlin Hp, 8 min to Centennial Hp. To the Government Center, Springs Preserve and Smith Center for the Performing Arts, it's 15-20 minutes. If you don't want to drive to the civic center, you can park and ride very conveniently and take an express bus from any of three or four locations on the west side. The Strip and the airport are a mere 25-30 minutes away. Worst of all, though, it takes maybe 45 min to get to Cashman Field and probably will take that much time to get to the new arenas and stadiums being planned in the SE valley, I believe. But c'mon, 30-45 min to get to a world class entertainment or sporting event? That's nothing compared to getting around Greater Los Angeles or San Francisco Bay areas, for example.
University hospital in 15 minutes - by helicopter. Most people are not going to need their ER unless they are shot, a tiger bites them in the neck or a really horrible car accident. Another hospital would stablize them and fly them there if that was needed.

Southern Hills in the SW is voted best hospital in Vegas.

Springs Preserves and Smith Center are 15 minutes apart.

I agree that we have a world class city here, for dining and entertainment. But the arts - no way. That is what a week trip is for - going to NYC, Boston Washington DC.

And yes we don't have the traffic of LA, NYC, San Fran.

There might be half acre lots left in the Ridges. Really one wants a septic system? That would be at the top of my rejection list. I laugh when people brag about them. I'm from the midwest, had friends that had them, things went bad and never again.
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Old 09-06-2017, 09:18 AM
 
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If you want a boat, an RV, or to leave your garage open, then summerlin is not even an option. While there are lovely areas in summerlin, there are some that are also not so great.
MY neighbors have a very large RV. They are allowed to park it in front of their house for up to 2 weeks while getting it ready for months long trips. With permission. And this is in Summerlin.

Your garage door being closed is for your own benefit. When we remodeled I got permission and my door was open during the day for months. We did a total redo and it took about 6 months.

Do NOT confuse gated with guard gated. Crime is lower in guard gated. Gates do nothing when people are giving the code to delivery people.
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