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Old 10-03-2017, 09:23 PM
 
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If he was doing this under the auspices of ISIS, or any other radical group, you think he'd communicate the fact (a la the Orlando shooter.)
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Old 10-03-2017, 09:27 PM
 
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If he was doing this under the auspices of ISIS, or any other radical group, you think he'd communicate the fact (a la the Orlando shooter.)
I would almost guarantee that he did. The authorities have not found it yet or are not admitting it. Anyone putting together such a complex scenario has a message somewhere.
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Old 10-03-2017, 09:29 PM
 
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I wonder if he targeted a country music festival on purpose or just that it happened to work with his plan and could have been any type of concert or event that he could hit the most people from a hotel.
There were several reputable media reports today that he tried to get a room overlooking another Las Vegas concert earlier in September. He wasn't able to get the rooms he requested at that hotel.

That was NOT a country music concert. I think I read it was a rap concert.

The source is an "anonymous official" so I'm taking the reports with a grain of salt. But, if it proves to be true that most likely he wasn't targeting country music fans, but rather any large outdoor event with an overlook.

A few of the reports:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/03/u...ates.html?_r=0


Vegas shooter may have been targeting another music festival | New York Post
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Old 10-03-2017, 09:30 PM
 
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I keep hearing mentally ill this and mentally ill that. You think a mentally ill person can plan like he did? As long as we are speculating, some shady group shorted Vegas casino stocks and put him up to it. The $100K sent to the girlfriend was payment. They sent in a professional to take him out before the cops could get to him. Good movie plot, yes?

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKCN1C71I1

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Old 10-03-2017, 09:36 PM
 
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I would almost guarantee that he did. The authorities have not found it yet or are not admitting it. Anyone putting together such a complex scenario has a message somewhere.
Well, let's not forget how quickly ISIS claimed he was their operative.

I just found it odd that the Sheriff used that particular word "radicalized" today after the investigators immediately disputed ISIS's claim yesterday.

Maybe it means nothing though. As I said, they're just trying to cover all bases.

And, again, probably just a coincidence, but there is ISIS activity in the Philippines, where he just wired $100,000. See, for example, these recent articles:

Women and Children Taking Up Arms for ISIS in Marawi, Philippine Army Says

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/b...g-asia-n790626
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Old 10-03-2017, 09:41 PM
 
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I keep hearing mentally ill this and mentally ill that. You think a mentally ill person can plan like he did?
A psychopath is perfectly capable of elaborate planning. In fact, most psychopaths are great at it.
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Old 10-03-2017, 09:41 PM
 
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My thoughts go out ot the victims but to also the residents and community in Las Vegas. You should be very proud of your metro cops and firefighters. They handled this with grace under fire. Im proud as a former resident to see how this comminty has come together.
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Old 10-03-2017, 10:44 PM
 
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I'm proud too.. but I found out today, that I cannot donate blood.... When I had my open heart surgery, I had 3 transfusions so it knocks me out... I'm sure that Ill figure another way to help...

crazy thing is that if I could have afforded the ticket prices and had pto left, I would have been there....
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Old 10-03-2017, 11:20 PM
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A psychopath is perfectly capable of elaborate planning. In fact, most psychopaths are great at it.

I am pretty terrible at planning. There are varying degrees of psychopath.


I am not saying it's a false flag or conspiracy but it's just weird that a rich old dude wanted to do this.
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Old 10-04-2017, 12:49 AM
 
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I just don't believe any of this . I believe the isis claims there is isis activity in Philippines where his girlfriend is currently . 100k sent could of been some sort of payment or bounty ? Perhaps he was blackmailed ?


Also all the photos leaked of his body and inside the room . Bullet casing laying on top of his fresh blood as if they were placed there afterwords . Even his self inflicted wound there's no brain splatter just blood leaking as if someone just hit their head . Also he appears to have blood/wound on his chest area . And lastly if he shot himseld with that revolver there is no bullets in the chamber and for those who saw these images , how did his rifle with the tripod fall perfectly over his leg as if it were placed ?

Not to mention the muzzle flash caught from multiple different cameras at lower floors as the gun fire came but no flash or muzzle light from where he was supposed to b
And the taxi drivers footage where after the initial echo you can clearly here a new burst of machine gun fire in the distance followed by loud fire almost as if she was driving under the window of the shooter

Something is not adding up
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