U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Nevada > Las Vegas
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 10-14-2017, 10:18 AM
 
Location: Henderson, NV
206 posts, read 297,713 times
Reputation: 170

Advertisements

Wow thanks everyone! Troublefreepool is my next stop! We were so clueless about this pool that we went to Leslie's only because...we were clueless. We have a lot to learn!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 10-14-2017, 11:39 AM
 
Location: 89121
213 posts, read 104,748 times
Reputation: 242
https://www.amazon.com/TAYLOR-TECHNO...NZQSYDE7SEPQPY

The best investment you can make on your pool. There are other brands this one just happens to be the one I own.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-16-2017, 08:27 AM
 
8,671 posts, read 8,851,169 times
Reputation: 7215
Quote:
Originally Posted by LVAllen View Post
Water doesn't get old. Some chemicals remain in the water, some break down. Cyanuric acid (stabilizer) is one that accumulates. CYA is part of the chlorine pucks. Stabilizer protects the chlorine from reacting from the sunlight and oxidizing away, but it also reduces the effectiveness of the chlorine. So, if you've been using pucks for a long time, the CYA levels have likely built up. Partial drain/refill is a possible action. The point is that Leslie's doesn't know what's going on, and isn't really a good source of advice. Their job is to sell you chemicals.

Visit troublefreefool.
At triple the price.

I learned right away to not buy anything at a pool store. Places like Home Depot carry pretty much everything you need at a fraction of what a place like Leslie's charges.
__________________
My posts as moderator will be in red.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-16-2017, 11:17 AM
 
686 posts, read 665,041 times
Reputation: 549
Another vote for not relying on Leslie's; I have a Taylor K-2006 and I'm transitioning to a TFT TF-100 right now (more solution for less). I needed to purchase acid so for giggles I did a full test on my water and took two samples to Leslie's (two different stores). First store told me I had no CYA in my pool and I needed to buy/add some. Second store told me I had too much CYA and I needed to do a partial drain. My test results were 70, exactly where I want to be.

My own test kit was best investment I've ever made.

Due to Calcium hardness I'll be draining my pool this year, water lasted 3 seasons. Neighbors have the same issue, our water is hard.

EDIT - Oh, another tip. Rather than buying skimmer socks at pool store buy a box of hair nets from Amazon. Work like a charm. I replace them every Saturday, cheap and easy.

Last edited by qingguy; 10-16-2017 at 11:38 AM..
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-16-2017, 12:14 PM
 
Location: Henderson, NV
206 posts, read 297,713 times
Reputation: 170
Thanks for all the great ideas and advice! Speaking of skimmer socks...I put one on the wrong way and it disappeared LOL still haven't found it! Everything seems to be running fine, just waiting for it to show up in the pump basket!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-16-2017, 01:05 PM
 
1,681 posts, read 3,043,376 times
Reputation: 1776
Quote:
Originally Posted by qingguy View Post
Due to Calcium hardness I'll be draining my pool this year, water lasted 3 seasons. Neighbors have the same issue, our water is hard.
Water comes out of the tap way over recommend CH levels. You can reduce CH with acid, but you have to go through a process of adding acid and then raising PH with aeration to allow you to add more acid to further reduce the CH without getting the PH too low.

I personally don't chase CH anymore. I didn't find having CH in recommended ranges made it any easier to control PH. Just my experience.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-16-2017, 01:19 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
534 posts, read 426,229 times
Reputation: 558
Quote:
Originally Posted by WestieJeff View Post
Water comes out of the tap way over recommend CH levels. You can reduce CH with acid, but you have to go through a process of adding acid and then raising PH with aeration to allow you to add more acid to further reduce the CH without getting the PH too low.

I personally don't chase CH anymore. I didn't find having CH in recommended ranges made it any easier to control PH. Just my experience.
That process won't have any effect on the levels of calcium in the water (CH). It will reduce your Total Alkalinity. TA acts as buffer for pH changes, but a high TA level tends to cause the pH to drift up. A high TA + a high CH + pH increases is going to lead to calcium precipitating out of the water and scaling on pretty much every available surface.

Unfortunately, you're right in that the tap water here has insanely high CH levels, so draining & refilling only has an effect when the CH levels are out of sight, and the insanely high fill water is much lower than the pool. But as long as you keep an eye on your pH, scaling shouldn't be too big of an issue. Also, capture as much rain water as you can.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-16-2017, 01:29 PM
 
1,681 posts, read 3,043,376 times
Reputation: 1776
Whoops, you're right. I got TA and CH mixed up.

Quote:
Originally Posted by LVAllen View Post
That process won't have any effect on the levels of calcium in the water (CH). It will reduce your Total Alkalinity. TA acts as buffer for pH changes, but a high TA level tends to cause the pH to drift up. A high TA + a high CH + pH increases is going to lead to calcium precipitating out of the water and scaling on pretty much every available surface.

Unfortunately, you're right in that the tap water here has insanely high CH levels, so draining & refilling only has an effect when the CH levels are out of sight, and the insanely high fill water is much lower than the pool. But as long as you keep an eye on your pH, scaling shouldn't be too big of an issue. Also, capture as much rain water as you can.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-16-2017, 01:35 PM
 
686 posts, read 665,041 times
Reputation: 549
Quote:
Originally Posted by LVAllen View Post
That process won't have any effect on the levels of calcium in the water (CH). It will reduce your Total Alkalinity. TA acts as buffer for pH changes, but a high TA level tends to cause the pH to drift up. A high TA + a high CH + pH increases is going to lead to calcium precipitating out of the water and scaling on pretty much every available surface.

Unfortunately, you're right in that the tap water here has insanely high CH levels, so draining & refilling only has an effect when the CH levels are out of sight, and the insanely high fill water is much lower than the pool. But as long as you keep an eye on your pH, scaling shouldn't be too big of an issue. Also, capture as much rain water as you can.
What LVAllen said. With high CH I pretty much focus on CSI and keeping it between 0 and -.3 as long as I'm in this range I'm good.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 10-16-2017, 02:03 PM
 
793 posts, read 463,283 times
Reputation: 868
What sort of CH are you all seeing? Mine started at 750 at fill this March (same as my tap water tests today), and has risen to 900 as of about three days ago.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:


Options
X
Data:
Loading data...
Based on 2000-2016 data
Loading data...

123
Hide US histogram

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > U.S. Forums > Nevada > Las Vegas
View detailed profiles of:
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

2005-2018, Advameg, Inc.

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top