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Old 11-08-2018, 11:35 PM
 
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[Note: I am not counting the Strip or the Fremont Street Experience - although both areas are almost completely filled with riff-raff garbage human beings.]

I have been in LV for about a month. The LV area has some good things and bad things.

The biggest knock I have about the area is that I can't find any urban areas that are walkable for a good stroll. The area is just strip mall after strip mall and gated community after gated community. You need to get in your car and drive all of the time.

I have been to The District in GVR, the Town Square Mall, Downtown Summerlin, and Tivoli Village - but those are just shopping centers. I went to the Downtown Henderson Water District but that was depressing.

The only area that would qualify that I have encountered is the couple of blocks between the Fremont Street Experience and Container Park. However, that is tiny and filled with riff-raff.

I am not talking about hiking/running trails either. I have been on a lot of those and they are fine - Sunset Park, Amargosa Trail, Peccole Ranch Trail, Mount Charleston/Cathedral Rock Trail, Pittman Wash Trail, Railroad Trail to Hoover Dam, Angel Park Trail, Cottonwood Canyon Trail.

So, are there any urban "walkable" areas that I can take a look at?

Thanks for any advice.
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Old 11-09-2018, 03:45 AM
 
Location: California
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[Note: I am not counting the Strip or the Fremont Street Experience - although both areas are almost completely filled with riff-raff garbage human beings.]

I have been in LV for about a month. The LV area has some good things and bad things.

The biggest knock I have about the area is that I can't find any urban areas that are walkable for a good stroll. The area is just strip mall after strip mall and gated community after gated community. You need to get in your car and drive all of the time.

I have been to The District in GVR, the Town Square Mall, Downtown Summerlin, and Tivoli Village - but those are just shopping centers. I went to the Downtown Henderson Water District but that was depressing.

The only area that would qualify that I have encountered is the couple of blocks between the Fremont Street Experience and Container Park. However, that is tiny and filled with riff-raff.

I am not talking about hiking/running trails either. I have been on a lot of those and they are fine - Sunset Park, Amargosa Trail, Peccole Ranch Trail, Mount Charleston/Cathedral Rock Trail, Pittman Wash Trail, Railroad Trail to Hoover Dam, Angel Park Trail, Cottonwood Canyon Trail.

So, are there any urban "walkable" areas that I can take a look at?

Thanks for any advice.
When I think “urban” I think of areas like downtown Long Beach, Los Angeles, and Huntington Beach type areas (CA) that are densely populated with a lot of mixed used properties, high rises, activities, nightclubs, bars, restaurants, and etc...if that’s what you’re looking for I don’t really think you’ll find it once you exclude the Strip. I go from CA to the Vegas Valley mutliple times a month as I recently bought a multi tenant in Henderson and I feel like outside of the Strip things get pretty tame and I would assume it’s because The Strip is the pinnacle of debauchery. I would liken it to looking for an Arena Football League Team in a county that has an NFL Team...you’re probably not going to find it. I may be speaking from a position of ignorance though so I would like a native to chime in.

However a recommendation I have is to check out Stephanie St. in Henderson. On Stephanie and Sunset there’s the Galleria Mall and tons of activity two blocks south. You have Sunset Station across the street, Miller’s Ale House, and tons of other stuff. It’s very clean, very walkable, and nice but it doesn’t have that dense urban feel I think you’re looking for. Once again I’m not a native but when you look at other regions you can see that their urban downtown type areas were developed for residents in search of entertainment/things to do. The Vegas Valley is the complete opposite where it started off as entertainment and the residents came later. So as the region developed the need wasn’t necessarily for entertainment, it was more like “how can we make this weird ass place full of transients in search of sin feel like a regular town for all the casino employees that live here?” A few years later, strip malls and gated communities! What I’m trying to say is to make sure you are expecting the right thing from the region as it’s not traditional by any means.

Disclaimer: I’m not a City Planner or LV Native so I may be wrong... @lvmensch will surely have a great answer and so would sportlvgal (SIC) and wisconsinvegasheights.
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Old 11-09-2018, 06:51 AM
 
Location: Henderson, NV
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The Strip at 9 AM.
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Old 11-09-2018, 07:25 AM
 
Location: North Las Vegas, NV
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When I think “urban” I think of areas like downtown Long Beach, Los Angeles, and Huntington Beach type areas (CA) that are densely populated with a lot of mixed used properties, high rises, activities, nightclubs, bars, restaurants, and etc...if that’s what you’re looking for I don’t really think you’ll find it once you exclude the Strip. I go from CA to the Vegas Valley mutliple times a month as I recently bought a multi tenant in Henderson and I feel like outside of the Strip things get pretty tame and I would assume it’s because The Strip is the pinnacle of debauchery. I would liken it to looking for an Arena Football League Team in a county that has an NFL Team...you’re probably not going to find it. I may be speaking from a position of ignorance though so I would like a native to chime in.

However a recommendation I have is to check out Stephanie St. in Henderson. On Stephanie and Sunset there’s the Galleria Mall and tons of activity two blocks south. You have Sunset Station across the street, Miller’s Ale House, and tons of other stuff. It’s very clean, very walkable, and nice but it doesn’t have that dense urban feel I think you’re looking for. Once again I’m not a native but when you look at other regions you can see that their urban downtown type areas were developed for residents in search of entertainment/things to do. The Vegas Valley is the complete opposite where it started off as entertainment and the residents came later. So as the region developed the need wasn’t necessarily for entertainment, it was more like “how can we make this weird ass place full of transients in search of sin feel like a regular town for all the casino employees that live here?” A few years later, strip malls and gated communities! What I’m trying to say is to make sure you are expecting the right thing from the region as it’s not traditional by any means.

Disclaimer: I’m not a City Planner or LV Native so I may be wrong... @lvmensch will surely have a great answer and so would sportlvgal (SIC) and wisconsinvegasheights.
I tend to agree with this statement. I found a city like Brooklyn to be the pinnacle of walkability where I lived for almost a year. I've been here five months with no car and am satisfied with the combination of walking,riding the bus, and using uber pool.

In some areas, the bus runs every 15 minutes whereas some cities I lived in they ran once an hour.
I walked ALOT over the summer months and really have no complaints. I really enjoy walking in this beautiful city.
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Old 11-09-2018, 06:22 PM
 
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I tend to agree with this statement. I found a city like Brooklyn to be the pinnacle of walkability where I lived for almost a year. I've been here five months with no car and am satisfied with the combination of walking,riding the bus, and using uber pool.

In some areas, the bus runs every 15 minutes whereas some cities I lived in they ran once an hour.
I walked ALOT over the summer months and really have no complaints. I really enjoy walking in this beautiful city.

Are you actually able to shop for groceries, get around (I assume you work, and even of you're retired, you want to go to downtown LV occasionally, right?). What kind of walkability can someone find in a state like Nevada or Arizona? I find that hard to believe, but just don't know. I will retire in 5 years and want to find a mild or warm US city (not a suburb, a small town, and definitely not a seniors' community) with no need for a car. I also live in NYC, where cars aren't necessary. Are Tucson and Las Vegas liveable without wheels?
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Old 11-09-2018, 07:16 PM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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The University campus on Maryland is a nice oasis in the city with lots of green grass, nice place to stroll, day or night. And if you like green grass in your strolls, grassy Hughes Corporate Center can't be beat.
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Old 11-09-2018, 11:12 PM
 
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The Arts District is what comes to mind.
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Old 11-10-2018, 12:28 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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The University campus on Maryland is a nice oasis in the city with lots of green grass, nice place to stroll, day or night. And if you like green grass in your strolls, grassy Hughes Corporate Center can't be beat.
The area around unlv seems pretty janky to me if my memory serves correctly, or have things changed?
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Old 11-10-2018, 06:27 AM
 
Location: North Las Vegas, NV
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Are you actually able to shop for groceries, get around (I assume you work, and even of you're retired, you want to go to downtown LV occasionally, right?). What kind of walkability can someone find in a state like Nevada or Arizona? I find that hard to believe, but just don't know. I will retire in 5 years and want to find a mild or warm US city (not a suburb, a small town, and definitely not a seniors' community) with no need for a car. I also live in NYC, where cars aren't necessary. Are Tucson and Las Vegas liveable without wheels?
There are some Arizona people on this board who can speak about those cities. I have heard that Phoenix is very spread out. I have nine fresh meals delivered by Freshly each week and I also can have smith's deliver my groceries. I use doordash a lot since there are so many good restaurants to choose from.

Most people will assert that you need a car here, but I managed to pull it off. I came here with no job and have been able to thrive. This city has so much potential. No state income tax makes a big difference too.

I believe NYC has Federal, State, and local income tax if I'm not mistaken.
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Old 11-10-2018, 06:36 AM
 
Location: Henderson, NV, U.S.A.
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Water street, Henderson

Heritage Park, Henderson

Burkholder trail

Boulder Highway trail

Union Pacific Railroad trail

Lake Mead Parkway Trail
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