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Old 02-02-2019, 04:46 PM
 
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In Las Vegas you have to be a good driver to avoid the crazy and drunk tourists that are driving all over town.
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Old 02-02-2019, 05:07 PM
 
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In Las Vegas you have to be a good driver to avoid the crazy and drunk tourists that are driving all over town.
Weirdly enough NV does reasonably well on drunk drivers. In general that tends to be a rural state problem.

Again middle third but in the better half.
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Old 02-02-2019, 07:35 PM
 
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My insurance doubled moving to Vegas.
Not sure where you came from but I got my quote and it was far lower in NV. Everyone thinks their drivers suck, but in many cases thatís just not true. The complaint Iíve heard about drivers in LA and Nevada is theyíre too fast. I found the drivers in LA to be excellent, they were great at merging, they didnít ever clog the fast lane by going 5 under like in Portland, and they were aggressive which I loved.
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Old 02-02-2019, 09:21 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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lvmensch is simply quoting the RJ - a well known local and right wing source.

You're actually quoting this link below which admits it is limited to insured drivers only.


https://quotewizard.com/news/posts/b...-by-state-2019


Realistically we are one of the cleanest shirts in a pile of dirty laundry. Overall drivers here are awful.
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Old 02-02-2019, 09:41 PM
 
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You're actually quoting this link below which admits it is limited to insured drivers only.


https://quotewizard.com/news/posts/b...-by-state-2019


Realistically we are one of the cleanest shirts in a pile of dirty laundry. Overall drivers here are awful.
That is the RJs problem...not lvmensch. The facts remain. All of the hard statistics proclaim NV is in the middle of drivers. Not good, not bad. In the middle.

And you have some proof that licensed drivers are not representative of all drivers? On a quick check about 90% of NV drivers are insured. So they give you a pretty good picture.

And that is typical of NV on any number of parameters. Someplace in the middle third.
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Old 02-02-2019, 09:47 PM
EA
 
Location: Las Vegas
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I like you proved yourself wrong and then keep on with the BS.



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Uhh no.

The statistics have hugely different sample size and are not comparable.

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You mean like California having 40 million people and Nevada having 3 million?????
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Old 02-02-2019, 09:52 PM
 
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I like you proved yourself wrong and then keep on with the BS.
And you have no idea of what a sample size is or deals with.

You are reasonably intelligent. Get a basic statistics book and read it. Or hunt around on youtube.

And nothing I have said has been proved wrong.
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Old 02-02-2019, 10:06 PM
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You proved yourself wrong.

You've been sitting here claiming these statistics are dead on but you ignore the sample size issue.

California sample size is 40 million people.

Nevada Sample size is 3 million people.


A DRASTIC difference.

If 10% of California drivers, 4 million, were flagged by the study and 10% of Nevadans, 300,000, were flagged by it as well, it's proportionally the same.

But this idiotic study ignored that and said there's less occurrences in Nevada therefore Nevada drivers are better.


It's mind blowingly stupid.

If 100% of Nevada drivers were flagged by the study, the study would still say Nevada is safer than California despite the fact that ALL Nevada drivers are doing something the study counts as dangerous or bad and only 10% of Cali drivers were doing something bad.

It's demonstrably wrong. This study needed to use per capita data not raw data.


Example.
10% of cali
10% of Nevada

Raw data 4 million Cali issues
300,000 NV issues
Conclusion NV drivers are safer than Cali drivers.


Conversely, how the study SHOULD have done it.

10% of Cali
10% of Nv

1 in 10 Cali drivers is unsafe
1 in 10 NV drivers is unsafe
Conclusion NV and Cali are equally unsafe.


This is really not that complicated.
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Old 02-02-2019, 10:28 PM
 
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You proved yourself wrong.

You've been sitting here claiming these statistics are dead on but you ignore the sample size issue.

California sample size is 40 million people.

Nevada Sample size is 3 million people.


A DRASTIC difference.

If 10% of California drivers, 4 million, were flagged by the study and 10% of Nevadans, 300,000, were flagged by it as well, it's proportionally the same.

But this idiotic study ignored that and said there's less occurrences in Nevada therefore Nevada drivers are better.


It's mind blowingly stupid.

If 100% of Nevada drivers were flagged by the study, the study would still say Nevada is safer than California despite the fact that ALL Nevada drivers are doing something the study counts as dangerous or bad and only 10% of Cali drivers were doing something bad.

It's demonstrably wrong. This study needed to use per capita data not raw data.


Example.
10% of cali
10% of Nevada

Raw data 4 million Cali issues
300,000 NV issues
Conclusion NV drivers are safer than Cali drivers.


Conversely, how the study SHOULD have done it.

10% of Cali
10% of Nv

1 in 10 Cali drivers is unsafe
1 in 10 NV drivers is unsafe
Conclusion NV and Cali are equally unsafe.


This is really not that complicated.
You do not appear to understand this well enough to talk about it.

There is no samples involved in fatal accident rates. They are simply raw scores. And that is what we are discussing. You take the number of automobile deaths and divide it by the number of 100,000 people in the population. You can also do it by miles driven. Both give roughly the same outcome.

In 2017 Nevada is 19th lowest in deaths per 100,000 population and 23rd lowest in deaths per 100 million miles. And that is the point. Nevada is not great but is not terrible either.

Again read a basic text. You are simply posting nonsense. There are no "sample sizes" in any of this.
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Old 02-02-2019, 10:42 PM
EA
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Deaths per 100k are ONE data point of thousands, or as the study claims, 2 million.

They're not looking at per capita though. They're looking at raw numbers without factoring in population.
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