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Old 02-26-2019, 07:32 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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I don't open my front door without checking camera. If it looks sketchy I'm armed and have no problem letting them know it verbally.
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Old 02-26-2019, 09:32 AM
 
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The trackers on phones can be inaccurate.They need to be careful about confronting people like that. Try it on your own phone. Lots of reasons why it might be off.
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Old 02-27-2019, 05:18 PM
 
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Mine pretty consistently shows on the map in the middle of my neighbors house but I've also had it show across town or blocks away from my location if it hasn't gotten a good lock in a while.

I'm not sure I would go confronting random people at their residence. That sounds like a good way for bad things to happen.

You can call the cell carrier and have the IMEI blacklisted which will make it a paperweight almost anywhere in the US.
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Old 02-27-2019, 05:26 PM
 
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Left a phone on the roof of the car while unlocking it 6 months ago. Missed the phone couple of hours later. Used the find your phone feature which told us it was at the sw corner of Durango and Alexander. The Admiral went to look and I used the computer to put the thing into ping loudly mode.

Sure enough buried in roadside gunk she found it. Interestingly the protective case was destroyed but the phone was completely in tact. Apparently the case gave its all when the phone came off the car roof.

The phone position was accurate within 10 feet. I talked her close enough she could hear it well before she saw it.

Had another lost phone a month ago and found out Verizon claims they cannot ring a missing phone. So google can but Verizon cannot.
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Old 02-28-2019, 07:18 AM
 
Location: Henderson, NV
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Two-way voice over cam or a Ring Doorbell. Neutralize potential physical confrontation. Eliminate potential threat of physical harm.


I have regretted opening my front door far more than not. I've had the poor college kids selling soap, the upset lady asking to use a phone, and a few other solicitations or scams. Just don't do it. The tech is here to completely eliminate the risk and nuisance.
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Old 02-28-2019, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Henderson
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I just lock my front gate.
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Old 03-01-2019, 02:23 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Two-way voice over cam or a Ring Doorbell. Neutralize potential physical confrontation. Eliminate potential threat of physical harm.
I installed one of these about six months ago. Excellent investment.
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Old 03-01-2019, 04:48 PM
 
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If someone showed up at my front door threatening to call the cops on me, I'd be calling the cops on them immediately.
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Old 03-01-2019, 05:02 PM
 
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I installed one of these about six months ago. Excellent investment.
You should be aware that security researchers have just announced that there are multiple security issues with Ring's devices and that they are easily hacked, allowing a remote attacker to watch/listen to your video feed, access data collected or stored by the device, and also allow the video/audio feed to be replaced with a fictitious feed of the hacker's choosing.

https://futurism.com/the-byte/resear...smart-doorbell

Personally, I don't trust any "cloud" connected home security devices for exactly this reason. There is little economic incentive for vendors to properly design/secure/maintain these devices. Particularly, once they go EOL, its pretty much guaranteed the vendor will stop releasing updates, meaning any newly discovered exploits will remain in your device indefinitely.

Also, Amazon has already been caught red-handed providing unfettered access to customer video feeds to overseas contractors:

https://www.theinformation.com/artic...okie-engineers


Expect this type of bad behavior and poor product support to continue so long as everything continues to get outsourced to 2-bit overseas lowest-bidder labor that doesn't understand basic security best practices nor do they care about spending any money to implement them, even if they did.

And for the tin-foil hat wearers - you can bet that if they provided video feeds to some BS no-name company in the Ukraine that they're already providing those feeds to the Police/FBI/NSA and probably any other agency who asks and any company willing to pony up the cash.
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Old 03-02-2019, 08:55 AM
 
Location: Henderson, NV
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You should be aware that security researchers have just announced that there are multiple security issues with Ring's devices and that they are easily hacked, allowing a remote attacker to watch/listen to your video feed, access data collected or stored by the device, and also allow the video/audio feed to be replaced with a fictitious feed of the hacker's choosing.
Who operates any system under the assumption it isn't compromised? I don't have any cloud-based device or cam pointing at me or my people. Ring openly allows users to share comments and footage across their community. My neighbors walking their dogs all day and night is hardly worth the hack. Hacking a camera aimed away from my property on approaches may somehow create a vulnerability to be exploited by a hacker, if that hacker only knew what closed-loop alternatives and other countermeasures I have in place.

Any real security plan is integrated in some ways and intentionally stove-piped in other ways to prevent single points of failure for the entire system. Does anyone really think an integrated smart home on one of these devices made by Bezos is really the answer?

Please don't rely on one company, product or network to protect you and your family. Layer your security--physical obstacles, lighting, motion sensors, vid/sound surveillance.

The point is that nothing on the market stands alone as impenetrable--by the time you discount all the issues and problems with every system, you will still face the same challenge.
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