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Old 07-21-2019, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Robotaxis are snake oil. It'll be decades before they can work out the kinks.
Yes and no. When they are twice as safe as the human driver do we let them in?

Very likely even in the first phase. Are you prepared to explain it to the family of the unneeded dead?
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Old 07-21-2019, 10:18 PM
 
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The thing is, people don't want AVs because they are safer. They want AVs to enable them to live even further away from their workplace. AVs aren't going to do any good in LA, NYC or SF, where their roads are clogged because everyone drives.

The future is in dense living and public transit. That encourages walk-able neighborhoods and intelligently evolved cities that are resilient to economic downturns.
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Old Yesterday, 01:38 AM
 
Location: Studio City, CA 91604
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In the next recession (whenever that may come) even if the real estate market falls again, I don't think it will be anything like before.

People are still going to be fleeing California, younger people will still be moving to growing metro areas to find job opportunities, and Vegas will continue to expand and diversify it's economy. That was the trend before, and trends like that don't just suddenly reverse themselves because of a recession. Or even a crash as we now know.

And unlike before the crash we now even have a new job class of people called Youtube Influencers, Instagram Thought Leaders, Social Media Lifestyle Curators, etc., to help sell the coveted Las Vegas Instagram Selfie Photo Opp dream. Good Times are coming folks, hold on to your britches!
YouTube influencers? ...Instagram Thought Leaders? The f....???

You're serious???

As for people "fleeing California" you have two classes of people in that category: older conservative retirees who are too afraid to pay an 8% income tax (so awful to expect that after a lifetime of largess, after all ), and the younger welfare class with multiple children from multiple "baby daddies" who gobble up social service dollars. At some point, something's gotta give.

The younger generations with advanced degrees aren't "fleeing" California, but flocking to it. They're also not afraid to manage their money and pay taxes because they realize the benefits those taxes bring.

California will continue to attract talent and tech programmers who actually design things, not just make videos of themselves giving lame-ass advice.

The challenge for Las Vegas is going to be with tourism and keeping itself legit to a younger, more socially-conscious class of Millennial Californians who don't see a need for excess, gaudiness, showboating and bizarre sexual fetishes that must "happen in Vegas and stay in Vegas".

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Old Yesterday, 02:18 AM
 
Location: North Las Vegas
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I think the biggest issue for LV valley is not the land but our allotment of water from Lake Mead. We only receive 300,000 acre feet of water per year from the Colorado River Compact. It is the smallest allotment of the 7 CR Compact States. Unlimited growth can't happen without water even with our water conservation efforts.
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Old Yesterday, 04:41 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Hate Vegas taxis. Had united air coupon from mcCarran to Southpoint. Foreign cabbie said he wanted good tip. I gave $5.00 . Didnt change amount due to his odor or offensiveness. Just wanted out.....lol.

United gave me $700 for the bump thing. Win some u lose some.
What's a foreign cabbie?

Is that someone that has a better education than you but is forced into a crap job because of you, you redneck?
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Old Yesterday, 05:00 AM
 
Location: Central Indiana/Indy metro area
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I hope housing doesn't go through the roof out there. I'm considering a relocation within the next ten years. Las Vegas is really the only place I'm interested in west of the Mississippi. We visited for the second time this past April. Visited the Spring Mountains, Boulder City, Valley of Fire SP, and once again did the drive up to Rachel to grab lunch at the Little A'Le'Inn. I'm looking for a more diverse outdoor scene than what central Indiana, and this area of the Midwest overall, offers. I'm looking to change careers into some sort of trade and need to get that going here and then see how things could covert out there.
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Old Yesterday, 09:37 AM
 
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Originally Posted by kttam186290 View Post
YouTube influencers? ...Instagram Thought Leaders? The f....???

You're serious???

As for people "fleeing California" you have two classes of people in that category: older conservative retirees who are too afraid to pay an 8% income tax (so awful to expect that after a lifetime of largess, after all ), and the younger welfare class with multiple children from multiple "baby daddies" who gobble up social service dollars. At some point, something's gotta give.

The younger generations with advanced degrees aren't "fleeing" California, but flocking to it. They're also not afraid to manage their money and pay taxes because they realize the benefits those taxes bring.

California will continue to attract talent and tech programmers who actually design things, not just make videos of themselves giving lame-ass advice.

The challenge for Las Vegas is going to be with tourism and keeping itself legit to a younger, more socially-conscious class of Millennial Californians who don't see a need for excess, gaudiness, showboating and bizarre sexual fetishes that must "happen in Vegas and stay in Vegas".
To an extent that is true. We’re going to see a bifurcated market in LV as the costs of new construction increase the prices for new homes and a further segmentation of the market. I think LV is going to be very slow to the gentrification path that other cities take as the housing stock gets limited.

I don’t blame retirees for leaving to minimize their tax burden. I do take issue with an influx less educated people coming here, but in either case there is very little to be done to create disincentives for both parties given the tax and employer base here in LV.

I think LV will be Ok in the next 10 years, Baby Boomers are sitting on tons of cash and they will have no qualms of squandering their inherited wealth on themselves - especially gambling, dining and entertainment.

Millennials are inherently going to carry on the torch in LV. They are more self absorbed with partying and the like. Casinos will be even less reliant on gambling in the future.
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Old Yesterday, 10:34 AM
 
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I hope housing doesn't go through the roof out there. I'm considering a relocation within the next ten years. Las Vegas is really the only place I'm interested in west of the Mississippi. We visited for the second time this past April. Visited the Spring Mountains, Boulder City, Valley of Fire SP, and once again did the drive up to Rachel to grab lunch at the Little A'Le'Inn. I'm looking for a more diverse outdoor scene than what central Indiana, and this area of the Midwest overall, offers. I'm looking to change careers into some sort of trade and need to get that going here and then see how things could covert out there.

Good luck with that career change. We can always use more people like you that appreciate the natural wonders here, and hopefully be a part of the voice that tries to keep these areas pristine.
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Old Yesterday, 12:46 PM
 
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As for people "fleeing California" you have two classes of people in that category: older conservative retirees who are too afraid to pay an 8% income tax (so awful to expect that after a lifetime of largess, after all ), and the younger welfare class with multiple children from multiple "baby daddies" who gobble up social service dollars. At some point, something's gotta give.

The younger generations with advanced degrees aren't "fleeing" California, but flocking to it. They're also not afraid to manage their money and pay taxes because they realize the benefits those taxes bring.

California will continue to attract talent and tech programmers who actually design things, not just make videos of themselves giving lame-ass advice.

The challenge for Las Vegas is going to be with tourism and keeping itself legit to a younger, more socially-conscious class of Millennial Californians who don't see a need for excess, gaudiness, showboating and bizarre sexual fetishes that must "happen in Vegas and stay in Vegas".
The very people who you claim are flocking to California all end up leaving the state after a few years. They come because California offers jobs at high salaries to people who couldn't get those positions elsewhere due to lack of experience in their industry.

But once the honeymoon wears off and they look at potentially settling down in California, they see all the starter homes within 60 minutes of their work are $800,000 in a school district that is majority low-income. And now that they have experience in their industry, they begin exit plans to transfer to other metro areas in the country. This has been the case of every person I know who moved to California the past decade.

I was there this weekend and while it's undoubtedly better than Vegas, I would have to make 2-3x what I make in Vegas for a comparable quality of life there.
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Old Yesterday, 01:20 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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The very people who you claim are flocking to California all end up leaving the state after a few years. They come because California offers jobs at high salaries to people who couldn't get those positions elsewhere due to lack of experience in their industry.

But once the honeymoon wears off and they look at potentially settling down in California, they see all the starter homes within 60 minutes of their work are $800,000 in a school district that is majority low-income. And now that they have experience in their industry, they begin exit plans to transfer to other metro areas in the country. This has been the case of every person I know who moved to California the past decade.

I was there this weekend and while it's undoubtedly better than Vegas, I would have to make 2-3x what I make in Vegas for a comparable quality of life there.
We do lots of Californians moving to Las Vegas. The ones we deal with are generally mature and mostly have large cash resources from selling a home in CA.

When we left CA. a couple of decades ago we had CA on our list as well as Las Vegas, Hawaii and Phoenix. In fact we tried Hawaii first and decided no way. And if we had not found our place in LV we would likely have gone back to CA. We had decided to get out of the coastal plain over environmental issues but we would have been OK with Temecula or Poway or such.

And the people we deal with are absolutely a resource to Las Vegas. They bring huge numbers of dollars to drive the local economy.
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