[Commander666]

Dirty, filthy, Wall St, and those corrupt teacher pension funds are the only ones making money.

[Merrily Gather]

You guys don't read do you. smh

Even the article he posted proved him wrong. He didn't even read it and it's the same person from the KNPR interview I posted.

[usnftcret]

According to the calculator, We are in the middle income category along with 55% of other people in the valley. Your poll completely missed this segment.

[Merrily Gather]

The poll is for fun. You missed the point of that.

[EA]

I did read. But I'm not seeing the part you're talking about. Why not end the confusion by copying and pasting the relevant parts here?

[Merrily Gather]

You didn't read it. You got to page 2 and cited it as page 3 and cherry picked one quote that appeared to agree with you but upon further examination didn't prove your point in the original article you posted. If you read the following paragraph you would have seen that. There was no significant upward mobility in Las Vegas. It indicated a significant decline. If you read the rest of it, all the way to page 5 even, you would have realized that. His KNPR audio piece explains this which you wouldn't even listen too and it's the same guy.

Has the middle class in Las Vegas shrunk? Yes—on Pew’s definition. No—on ours.

Using Pew’s definition, the share of households in the Las Vegas-Henderson-Paradise MSA
(hereafter referred to as Las Vegas) who are middle class dropped from 57% to 52%
between 1999 and 2017.9 But according to the Brookings definition, the share of
households in the middle class remained essentially the same over the same period: 64%
in 1999, 65% in 2017

Also 08grad the study makes no mention of hundreds of thousands of immigrants moving here bringing us down either. The burden of proof for that claim is upon you though. I thought you were a teacher? Oh and to answer your question on those facts you asked me to cite from a prior thread, it's in a book called Dying of Whiteness: How the Politics of Racial Resentment Is Killing America's Heartland.

Makes it more difficult to cite and I don't expect you to read it but I'd recommend it.

[EA]

Has the middle class in Las Vegas shrunk? Yes—on Pew’s definition. No—on ours.

Using Pew’s definition, the share of households in the Las Vegas-Henderson-Paradise MSA
(hereafter referred to as Las Vegas) who are middle class dropped from 57% to 52%
between 1999 and 2017.9 But according to the Brookings definition, the share of
households in the middle class remained essentially the same over the same period: 64%
in 1999, 65% in 2017





Here is what I quoted "Has the middle class in Las Vegas shrunk? Yes—on Pew’s definition. No—on ours."

Here is what the additional piece says.


THE SAME DAMN THING.

"But according to the Brookings definition, the share of
households in the middle class remained essentially the same over the same period:"


So, NO the middle class did not decline.

As to the illegals...


https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...ed-immigrants/

[Merrily Gather]

You still refuse to stand corrected even when the facts are right in front of you. The evidence does not support your original claim of upward mobility in the Valley.

As for this immigrant article let me look at it. Did you even read this one or are you just throwing out links you think agree with you again? I'm guessing the later since you didn't quote any part of it in support.

[08grad]

Originally Posted by Merry Lee Gather

You guys don't read do you. smh

Originally Posted by Merry Lee Gather

You missed the point of that.

Originally Posted by Merry Lee Gather

You ... cherry picked one quote that appeared to agree with you

Originally Posted by Merry Lee Gather

You still refuse to stand corrected even when the facts are right in front of you.

REEEEEE why won't everyone think like me!!!

You're going to fit in well among the rest of the county's residents and their 17.4 average ACT score.

[Katie the heartbreaker]

I can say for the poor, things have gotten much worse. Not only myself, but all of the others I know in a similar situation. None of them have moved into middle class, just gotten poorer. I also know middle class people who have been both pushed higher and pushed lower, it all depends on their situation and how they handled their finances. The middle class people I know who owned property and have equity investments have moved to the upper middle class. On the flip side, people who were solidly middle class who rented and had no equities have seen their financial situation get worse. Some of them have now joined the poor. So again, I feel it is how you invested or lack of it, and whether you rented or own.