[EA]

It's called taxation is theft.

[compwiz02]

Originally Posted by ddrhazy

There is a reason tax cuts exist.

It's called political corruption.

So you are willing to say half the country (poor, working class, and the rich combined) are corrupt? Corrupt means getting access to something because you have the money to make it happen.

I would actually like to see every service that gets paid for using taxpayer money and in that list, which service suffers the most from tax cuts. A visual image would be nice to have.

Originally Posted by EA

It's called taxation is theft.

Well that's if you believe in full power to the people. The people get to decide what they get to spend their money in, not the government. I think one of the biggest problems with the government is the lack of transparency and the power struggle between people in the government.

[Commander666]

Originally Posted by compwiz02

So you are willing to say half the country (poor, working class, and the rich combined) are corrupt? Corrupt means getting access to something because you have the money to make it happen.

I would actually like to see every service that gets paid for using taxpayer money and in that list, which service suffers the most from tax cuts. A visual image would be nice to have.



Well that's if you believe in full power to the people. The people get to decide what they get to spend their money in, not the government. I think one of the biggest problems with the government is the lack of transparency and the power struggle between people in the government.

And lifetime wards of the state called politicians.

[BBMW]

We can go the other way, and take EA's position that any tax is theft to begin with. Then it doesn't matter whether they follow the law or not.

Originally Posted by ddrhazy

Yes. Tax cuts are tax evasion made legal. To paraphrase Bill Maher regarding the dentist who travelled to Africa to kill a lion. "Yes, what the dentist did isn't technically illegal, that's what rich people do. They change the law to make things that were once illegal or immoral to something that's legal. That isn't right, that's just a larger part of the problem".


Here's the video, starting at 5:10

https://youtu.be/LDmLVr6AUHs

[BBMW]

Tax cuts are usually very popular politically. Lots of politicritters get elected promising tax cuts. Some try to win promising tax increases, but only to a tiny percentage of voters, with the proceeds to be doled out to a much larger percentage of voters. Is the latter any less corrupt?

Originally Posted by ddrhazy

There is a reason tax cuts exist.

It's called political corruption.

[ddrhazy]

Originally Posted by compwiz02

So you are willing to say half the country (poor, working class, and the rich combined) are corrupt? Corrupt means getting access to something because you have the money to make it happen.

I would actually like to see every service that gets paid for using taxpayer money and in that list, which service suffers the most from tax cuts. A visual image would be nice to have.



Well that's if you believe in full power to the people. The people get to decide what they get to spend their money in, not the government. I think one of the biggest problems with the government is the lack of transparency and the power struggle between people in the government.

I'm willing to say that your 2nd attempt to make me feel bad about calling out rich people lobbying for tax cuts and likening it to some affront to the middle class is hilarious.

[compwiz02]

Originally Posted by ddrhazy

I'm willing to say that your 2nd attempt to make me feel bad about calling out rich people lobbying for tax cuts and likening it to some affront to the middle class is hilarious.

Not attempting to do anything. I'm making it a point that people of all classes enjoy tax cuts. Your position is tax cuts should be.....abolished? Some democrats believe only the poor and middle class should have tax cuts, not the wealthy (which is fair). Do you think the same way? Or do you believe everyone should be prevented from having tax cuts?

[08grad]

Originally Posted by compwiz02

Some democrats believe only the poor and middle class should have tax cuts, not the wealthy (which is fair).

The statement in parentheses directly contradicts the statement before it.

[compwiz02]

Originally Posted by 08grad

The statement in parentheses directly contradicts the statement before it.

there was no statement in parenthesis, just a comment. statements don't start with "which". Can you elaborate on why it is contradictory?

[ddrhazy]

Originally Posted by compwiz02

Not attempting to do anything. I'm making it a point that people of all classes enjoy tax cuts. Your position is tax cuts should be.....abolished? Some democrats believe only the poor and middle class should have tax cuts, not the wealthy (which is fair). Do you think the same way? Or do you believe everyone should be prevented from having tax cuts?

I believe that fundamental services and programs need to always be funded. And if you've earmarked taxes based upon information in the past and then give a tax cut and that means you have to kill that fundamental service, you've broken all sorts of laws and ethics.

How much the law has been broken, that would have to be looked at on a case by case basis.