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Old Yesterday, 03:36 AM
 
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America's healthcare system is a joke. Pretty much any other country that isn't 3rd world has a better system.

It isn't the main reason I left, but it was a factor.
Right, that's why people with money come here for anything major. Help me, help me! Ha ha ha.
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Old Yesterday, 04:37 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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Isn't this exactly my point? Their healthcare system is far better than ours. Not only their healthcare, their whole country is far better than ours. Finland is #1 when it comes to happiness. All of the Nordic countries score higher than the United States.
....So Finland is the worst of the Nordic countries when it comes to healthcare at 4% reporting unmet needs. In the United States, 13.7% do not even have insurance. Then you have all the people who have insurance who cannot afford the deductibles. Thank you for the article which shows that the Nordic countries have a far better healthcare system than ours. I really appreciate it.
Not sure why you are bothering with any sensible talk.

Tax rates are much higher in countries with a good healthcare system, it's not just Nordic countries and other European countries, take Australia for example.

Unfortunately America won't stand for higher tax rates because it takes away too much money from the rich and ultra rich.
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Old Yesterday, 12:19 PM
 
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Not sure why you are bothering with any sensible talk.

Tax rates are much higher in countries with a good healthcare system, it's not just Nordic countries and other European countries, take Australia for example.

Unfortunately America won't stand for higher tax rates because it takes away too much money from the rich and ultra rich.
Correct.
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Old Yesterday, 12:42 PM
 
Location: NNV
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"But Finland’s 130-year-old health care system does have a lot going for it. Not only is the vast majority of the population — 88% — happy with the system, its virtually free care for all means that no Finn has ever been in the red because of medical costs alone (though that doesn’t mean there aren’t complaints)."


"The “Nordic model” consists of strong welfare states funded by relatively high levels of taxation, which enable governments to provide high-quality education and health care for all"


"Then there is the quality of the system, in terms of patient care outcomes. Finland is one of the five countries with the lowest maternal mortality rates, and Finns have longer life expectancy than Americans. Finland also comes out among the top countries in the world for access to health care."




Isn't this exactly my point? Their healthcare system is far better than ours. Not only their healthcare, their whole country is far better than ours. Finland is #1 when it comes to happiness. All of the Nordic countries score higher than the United States. I guess the quote below is what you are looking for.


"Way back in 2013, the international Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development was already warning that Finland was lagging behind many other OECD countries in having high rates of unmet needs. At the time, more than 4% of Finnish people reported unmet medical needs due to cost, travel distance or waiting lists — a proportion significantly higher than in Denmark, Norway, Sweden and the Netherlands."


So Finland is the worst of the Nordic countries when it comes to healthcare at 4% reporting unmet needs. In the United States, 13.7% do not even have insurance. Then you have all the people who have insurance who cannot afford the deductibles. Thank you for the article which shows that the Nordic countries have a far better healthcare system than ours. I really appreciate it.
Sure, it's great until the government can't pay for it anymore. Read the rest of the article. And Google "Finland Healthcare Collapse".

I'm not saying our healthcare system doesn't need reform. But the idyllic Nordic system has its issues too. Let's not be blind to that.
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Old Yesterday, 12:57 PM
 
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Not to mention the middle class also. The tax system was always designed to collect as much as possible from the middle class. Why? It's easier. The rich can make it much more difficult in any number of ways.

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Unfortunately America won't stand for higher tax rates because it takes away too much money from the rich and ultra rich.
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Old Yesterday, 02:05 PM
 
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Most of those low paying jobs will be gone once Amazon automates all of its warehouses. That means thousands of people out of work in Las Vegas within the next 5-10 years.
Any jobs destroyed are likely to be replaced by new jobs created that have higher value-add. Just like always. Same as it ever was.
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Old Yesterday, 02:11 PM
 
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I haven't looked at the numbers, but I assume the wealth Gap is at its widest its ever been. Doesn't exactly sound like a great economy, unless your last name is Walton.
The economy is going gangbusters. This is as good as it has been in the memory of anyone alive. Unemployment is at or near all-time lows. Even unemployment among teenagers, those without HS degrees, and traditionally hard-hit minorities is at all-time lows. The value of retirement plans is up. The value of 401Ks, which had been decimated under the disastrous economic policies of the Obama regime, are now at all-time highs. Ditto for IRAs. New business formation is up. Free cash flow generated by small businesses is better than it has ever been - period.

Yes, it is a great economy.
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Old Yesterday, 02:21 PM
 
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If the economy is doing so well right now, why did Trump tweet this morning to lower rates 1% and print more money?



Please educate me.
The state of the economy is not a function of anyone's tweets.

At the same time, Trump is correct that there is a currency war going on - many countries in the world have taken steps to devalue their currency, which makes US goods and services more expensive than prior to devaluation, thereby curtailing exports of goods and services. Because US rates are higher than they ought to be relative to interest rates in China and Europe (and elsewhere), foreign money is flowing to the US to invest in US short and long term treasuries. This is the primary driver of the momentary inversions we've had.

It would be best to stop following Trump Tweets. Instead, pay attention to actions of the administration. The regulatory environment is better than it has been in decades. Trump is correct to demand China stop stealing the IP of US Companies, and the tariffs are part of putting pressure on China to agree to stop stealing our IP.
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Old Yesterday, 02:24 PM
 
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No, I already moved to a much better country than the US.
Where?
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Old Yesterday, 02:29 PM
 
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If that were going to happen, we'd be seeing it by now. We haven't. Past performance is no guarantee of future results.

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Any jobs destroyed are likely to be replaced by new jobs created that have higher value-add. Just like always. Same as it ever was.
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