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Old 08-23-2019, 02:53 AM
 
Location: North Las Vegas
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I’m sorry I caught the article on the way out the door. It’s funny I was going to say it’s its for teacher salary’s I’d be for it because that seems to be an ongoing battle. If you’ve ever watched one of the board meeting those people seemed to be dressed very well.

So if it’s not going to them I’m not into it. More tax money that will be squandered away on what.
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Old 08-23-2019, 09:21 AM
 
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Because CCSD is an amazing deal for any teacher from California who is making above average pay but is in a high cost of living area and won't ever be able to afford a house.

CCSD matches out of state salaries up to 76,000. Teachers here don't pay state income tax, don't contribute 10% to CalSTRS, and aren't required to join the union. Add in the significantly cheaper cost of living and it's a bargain for those currently teaching in Coastal CA.

There's a lot of awful things about CCSD but compensation is not one of them.
When compared to California, sure. When compared to much of the US, yes.
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Old 08-23-2019, 11:40 AM
 
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Marilyn Kirkpatrick did call me back and we had a long discussion about the proposal, a cordial one even though we disagreed. The vote is September 3rd, so we'll see what happens. And she told me that the board makes the decision on whether the board votes on it or it goes to a vote of the people. I'd still say call and let them know, they need to hear from us.
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Old 08-23-2019, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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I get nobody wants to pay more for anything, but I do believe there some level of correlation between it.

I have friends who are teachers in WA and TX. They laugh when I tell them what teachers make in NV. Why would any teacher move here unless they absolutely had to?
There is a reason that the school year just opened with 750 vacant jobs in Clark County classrooms.

Oklahoma is dealing with this same issue. Their militant "no tax increase for anything" stance has led to a mass exodus of teachers from the state. They can get jobs in bordering Texas for significantly higher salaries, and not pay state income tax. Eventually this will take a toll on the state economically, as the quality of education drops even further.
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Old 08-23-2019, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Southern Highlands
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There is a reason that the school year just opened with 750 vacant jobs in Clark County classrooms.

Oklahoma is dealing with this same issue. Their militant "no tax increase for anything" stance has led to a mass exodus of teachers from the state. They can get jobs in bordering Texas for significantly higher salaries, and not pay state income tax. Eventually this will take a toll on the state economically, as the quality of education drops even further.

Property tax makes Texas a high tax state.
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Old 08-23-2019, 04:26 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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Property tax makes Texas a high tax state.
All I can tell you is that when I lived there, the Oklahoma City newspaper, who advocated against any modifications in taxation, cared about the state so much that they moved their corporate offices to Dallas.
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Old 08-23-2019, 11:23 PM
 
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Property tax makes Texas a high tax state.
Yep, by about 2x vs Clark County.
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Old 08-24-2019, 01:21 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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There's 3 bureaucracies you can feed enough: the military, the police departments and education. How much of the sales tax in Las Vegas is just going to the police department alone? If I recall, when living there, it was bumped up twice.
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Old 08-24-2019, 03:04 AM
 
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There is a reason that the school year just opened with 750 vacant jobs in Clark County classrooms.

Oklahoma is dealing with this same issue. Their militant "no tax increase for anything" stance has led to a mass exodus of teachers from the state. They can get jobs in bordering Texas for significantly higher salaries, and not pay state income tax. Eventually this will take a toll on the state economically, as the quality of education drops even further.
The 750 vacant jobs number is quoted for sensationalism. We have around 18,500 teachers in the district, making the 750 openings account for 4% of our classrooms, or 1 in 25.

If you look deeper into the openings, the majority are at low income schools in subjects where performance is highly tested and scrutinized (English, Math, Science).

While Oklahoma doesn't offer high salaries to educators, their average home price is $150,000. A teacher's salary will buy you a new construction home in the affluent NW suburbs of Oklahoma City (Edmond) with high performing schools (average ACT 24 - 3 points higher than anything in Vegas).

Home prices in Texas are double what they are in Oklahoma and the property tax rate is among the highest in the nation, which ends up being far more costly than the state income tax savings.

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Old 08-24-2019, 03:25 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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This is a tax that will hit me directly, yet I am 100% for it. The last time sales tax went up, it was to help with the police compensation and pensions. It went from 8.15% to 8.25%. I remember keeping track of how much it was costing me. It was around 5 pennies a month. Yes, 5 pennies a month. If this one goes through, and I hope it does, it will end up hitting me for around the same. I can spare another 5 pennies to help the schools.
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