[Daddys///M3]

Originally Posted by Mack wild

Do you even go out to bars and clubs? See this is my problem with some of the advice. It's not that I don't realize it can get expensive. It's not that I don't realize that if you live in Vegas it's not always glitze and glamour -- you have to pay your bills. It's not that I don't realize that there is a lot of competition for jobs and that I am going to have to bust my ass and make some connections to get the better ones. It's that the people responding to me don't really even know what they are talking about, they are just generalizing based on stereotypes of both single women AND of single men. This isn't about Vegas anymore -- it's about single people vs married people jayded of the fast lane.

Where I live there are no kick ass malls, there are no outdoor concerts, there are no casino's, there are no strips -- there is NONE of this stuff. The closest I have came to it is vacations in various area's and a couple summers I spent in tourist area's which turned me ON to tourist area's.

Yes the guys pay more to get in. Most places like 10 bucks more. A guy who wants a front of line pass will pay between 20-40 bucks in most places. Many of these places are very trendy, I have done the research. My oppurtunities to meet people or specifically GIRLS will certainly NOT be limited to the highest end club situation. I feel bad for some of you guys who feel that way, it makes me feel bad for you. Fact is there are a hell of a lot more girls around and girls that are coming and going in various places ALL THE TIME in vegas. This makes it a place that single guys take interest in. A lot of the time single girls take interest in it for the same reasons. A girl may set out on vegas in hopes of meeting a high roller, they wont all meet one -- the ones they meet wont all know what to do or say -- and since I tend to have fun with the girls who give me a chance, I think i will be fine wherever I am at. I can handle being told to get lost if I dont buy a girl a drink or whatever, that's not cool and I dont want to be a part of it.

No my problem is that this thread has gone from a factual and realistic pro and con type thread to a bunch of guys projecting their reasons for settling down onto me.

I've done more research now and am feeling more confident despite some of the generalizations being thrown out here. I looked online and some of these places look totally kick ass -- and you can get a table with 5 guests for like 200 bucks with a free round of drinks!! That's like 40 bucks a person.

Really it all comes down to how easy it is to make friends there and I have my connections and ways.

Did you even understand what I was saying in the post you quoted? I said that random hookups do happen. I said that you CAN get laid even if you're not a baller. I just said that it was probably more likely to happen with a local girl, even at a club. I also said that trying to hit a club every weekend would be next to impossible unless you had some funds, which you admittedly understand, but continue to try and give me a hard time. Do you or do you not agree with the advice I've given you? Where in the hell do you get that I'm generalizing anything about single anybody? Where the hell do you get that I'm trying to project anything about why I happened to settle down? What the hell does that even mean?

This has nothing to do with single vs. married. I guarantee you I'm not jaded. I moved here when I was 19. I've experienced everything Vegas has to offer. I've also lived in quite a few other cities, so I can speak on Vegas vs. other spots as well. I know what I'm talking about. I also know a couple of people that are in the business, as well as those who have connections in the club scene due to their occupations.

I told you to come out. I just explained to be reasonable in your expectations. I told you that you would very likely have a great time. I tried to stay objective and even slightly positive for you while others were giving you a hard time. I could really care less though. I can already tell you how it's going to go down as I'm sure a few others here already did, but you don't want to hear any of it, right? Believe what you want to believe. For future reference, perhaps people are being mean to you because of you. Here is a link for your club search. Get on the list and hope that the club honors it.

Las Vegas Events Listings, Calendar and Guest Lists





EDIT: I saw that you edited the math in your post. Just for future reference, 200 divided by 5 is still 40. It's not 35.

[pukalo]

Wow this convo has really went places First of all you asked for real advice, and you got what you asked for. They are not trying to ruin your plan or anything, their just giving you their honest opinion, so you don't gotta be so defensive about it.

But then again ill tell you what I think. From what I've read it looks like your just looking for a good vacation Save up enough money to afford a nice 2-3 week vacation in Vegas, that is plenty of time to experience all that Vegas has to offer and you'll even get tired of it.

I don't think you realize what it takes to work full-time job taking double shifts and then having another part-time job. The only thing you'll want to do on your day off is to plump on your bed. And in order to land a promotion or a better paying job you will need to work your ass off for a while to get there.

But then again I'm a true believer that anything is possible, we live only once so what do you got to lose to try something crazy? You just have to dream with reality Think through the positives and the negatives, and see which one outweighs. And theres one sure thing you MUST do is TAKE YOUR TIME with this! Do not rush to go there! You have no idea how fast we change our minds, one morning you might wake up and say "What the heck was I thinking?". So take your time, take all the advice the locals given you seriously and I wish you all the best of luck in your journeys! And maybe I will see you in Vegas next Summer

[Mack wild]

Originally Posted by Daddys///M3

Aside from dynimageLV, I haven't really seen anyone giving you a hard time. We're just trying to give you accurate information. You're not being stereotyped, but you are stereotyping our city (I don't blame you, that's exactly why the city of LV advertises the way it does) and we are trying to give you an accurate picture of what to expect.

Coolest clubs: Yeah, maybe. I'm sure there are some in NY, Miami, or LA that could give Vegas a run for it's money but these places are much more expensive to live.

More random hookups: How would that even be determined? Who keeps the stats on that? I think that is misconception. That being said, I'm sure that you will experience more random hookups out here than in Maine. In all likelihood you will meet local women that won't mind hooking up either, and it's probably more likely than some tourist female. There are plenty of women in Vegas that enjoy themselves and have fun as well.

VIP lists and $20-$30 covers: Not on the strip. Maybe at the club in the Santa Fe Station or some other suburban casino, but your big name clubs like Tao, Foundation Room, RA, Rain, and Rehab (not even sure how many of these are still open) are going to cost you a pretty penny if you can get in, and expect to drop quite a bit on drinks especially if you're buying for a female companion. As I said in my previous post, when I was talking about money I wasn't talking about golddiggers. I was talking about trying to maintain a lifestyle of going clubbing every weekend to fish for tourist honeys. That is what will get expensive.

Public transport: Yes. The buses pretty much run anywhere and they should. It's only 30+ miles from one end of town to the other. We still don't have many routes (maybe one) in the extreme NW, but anywhere towards the center of town should be no problem.

The people here are actually really nice for the most part. I'm sorry, but your single friends that have been here have very limited info to give you. Coming for a weekend is one thing, living here is another.

Come on out. Have a good time. Just don't expect it to be like a non-stop South Padre Island on Spring Break (although we do have some pretty good Spring Breaks, Memorial Day weekends, and especially New Year's Eves).

Thanks for the balanced view man. I did look up the most trendy clubs though and a few are as low as 30 bucks:

Rain Las Vegas Details

• Hours of operation: Open Friday-Saturday, 11 p.m. to early morning.
• Cover price:
  • Front-of-the-Line Pass (Friday or Saturday): $30, per night

I mean obviously I am not going to be hitting up the high end places all the time, but even to be able to go out a couple nights a week and hit a really awesome place a couple times a month will be sooo much better than the singles lifestyle I live right now. The jobs may be tough to get but at least there are JOBS. In Maine if I want to do something with a girl I have to take her to Walmart or some bizzness. At least in vegas there are cool places I can go with her. You guys just don't get how awful Maine is. Its horrible. Want to raise a family in a very safe place with clean air and water and live with the tree's with nothing to do and just chill out and relax all day? Move to Maine. That's ALL it has for you. I realize for some of you that sounds very appealing and a nice change -- so maybe you can understand why your city seems like a nice change to me.

I can already tell you how it's going to go down as I'm sure a few others here already did, but you don't want to hear any of it, right?

Sure go ahead and tell me man. At this point I am just trying to figure out if you guys are saying that it is worst than places with less tourists and less to do like Boston, San Fran, or smaller cities. It would help to get a contrast from city to city for the life of a single guy. Im moving to a city point blank, and so I would appreciate it if people would tell me why another city would be better than Vegas.

P.S

The thing said 5 guests. So me + 5 guests is 6 people going in on 200 bucks, which makes 35. Don't get me wrong I do respect and appreciate the math skills of a loan officer, but I have a BA in business myself -- or don't you remember? :-)

[Daddys///M3]

I didn't mean to come off like a prick, it just didn't seem like you were understanding where I was coming from. I'm not saying that there is not a party scene out here, of course there is. It is what this city was buit on. If you come out here with a plan and a decent head on your shoulders then you should do fine. There is definitely plenty of fun to be had in Vegas whether you're young and single or not so young (I'm only 34 so I'm not really old) and not so single. I couldn't comment on the east coast as I have never been, but places like LA, San Diego, or Seattle are much more expensive and much more spread out, so club hopping is much more difficult in a place like that. Plus, like you mentioned, it would likely be easier to meet people here because of the constant influx of tourists as opposed to a place like LA where everyone knows everyone because of the heavily local scene.

I really do apologize about getting worked up, as well as giving you crap about your math skills. If it makes you feel any better you can give me crap for my reading comprehension. I must have missed the part about your BA in business (why you would want a service industry job I have no idea but whatever floats your boat). I sincerely wish you the best of luck whichever way you decide to go, just be sure that the homework gets done first, comprende?

[returnoftheyeti]

Dude - My post from a few pages ago. MONEY GOES FAST. Dosn't matter the cost of cover. If were to get go out at my old town, it would go something like this....
Dinner for me before the bar/club $8.00
Parking $10.00
Cover $15.00
Drinks for me $12.00
Fruity Drink for the hot chick that stops talking to me as soon as I buy her booze $8.00
more drinks for me $12.00


you are already at $65.00 and I havn't even bought another round for the next chick that I am going to hit on.......

The night usually finished out like this...

Fruity Drinks $30 total
3 am food run - $20.00
Condoms $4.00

That is $119 right there, and I'd consider that a cheap night out.....

Even Condoms cost more here, at the hotels a 3 pack box can be $8. The only thing cheaper in Vegas is the parking.....

$100 a night - yeah right. $100 in the first club you go to, maybe.... Not counting all that other **** .....


And since I seem to be confessing a bit here.....

What do you do when she says "We cant go back to my room, my friends are there....."

$150 Hotel room - Priceless....

[ClarkGrisowld]

Originally Posted by Mack wild

Hey -- I just don't discriminate. If a girl wants to have a little fun on her vacation I am not going to shoot her down or make her feel bad for it, or try to cling to her. OTOH If a girl wants more and knows how to be cool and patient with me and I enjoy her there is no reason for me to cut it off. Im glad you dropped in though, it was fun.

Good luck with the man-whoring....Let us know how it works out!

[Mack wild]

Originally Posted by Daddys///M3

I sincerely wish you the best of luck whichever way you decide to go, just be sure that the homework gets done first, comprende?

No worries man, I am not going ANYWHERE until AT LEAST January. Just starting the research real early.

[Mack wild]

Originally Posted by returnoftheyeti

Dude - My post from a few pages ago. MONEY GOES FAST. Dosn't matter the cost of cover. If were to get go out at my old town, it would go something like this....
Dinner for me before the bar/club $8.00
Parking $10.00
Cover $15.00
Drinks for me $12.00
Fruity Drink for the hot chick that stops talking to me as soon as I buy her booze $8.00
more drinks for me $12.00


you are already at $65.00 and I havn't even bought another round for the next chick that I am going to hit on.......

The night usually finished out like this...

Fruity Drinks $30 total
3 am food run - $20.00
Condoms $4.00

That is $119 right there, and I'd consider that a cheap night out.....

Even Condoms cost more here, at the hotels a 3 pack box can be $8. The only thing cheaper in Vegas is the parking.....

$100 a night - yeah right. $100 in the first club you go to, maybe.... Not counting all that other **** .....


And since I seem to be confessing a bit here.....

What do you do when she says "We cant go back to my room, my friends are there....."

$150 Hotel room - Priceless....

LOL. Well here is how *I* "roll":

I'm smart with my money. I would either walk, get a ride, or take some sort of public transportation INTO town. If I was going to drink at all I would already have a nice buzz going by the time I even leave my apartment, I call it "pre-game". The alcohol I bought that I drank before I go out and the condoms -- would already be accounted for in the grocery budget. My cover would be pre-paid and on an average night would be $30 bucks. If I had time to kill I would roam around the streets or casino's and people watch. Then I would go to the club, be cool with the bouncers and employee's and get it so they know who I am -- that will pay off later down the road.

So now I am inside and I have likely spent absolutely nothing that is currently in my pocket. If you want to get technical I have spent 30 bucks. Of course now I want to revive my buzz a little bit so I will probably get a couple of drinks. Add $20. When the girl rolls up to me asking for a drink I will throw some zinger lines at her. I wont be buying her any drinks to "buy" her time -- she will like me for my personality or she will find some other chump to **** over. The first girl I get into a good conversation with where drinks come up, I will suggest SHE buy ME a god damned drink with a smirk on my face. IF she declines I will suggest we buy EACHOTHER a drink. She will buy me a drink, I will get her a tonic.

So now I am plenty buzzed and having fun and the total for the night is at like 50 bucks if you include the cover I pre-paid for. Maybe I feel like a lush and I drop down money for another drink. Im at 60. If there is no transportation after a certain hour and I don't have a local place to crash for the night then I guess I gotta get a cab. Make it $80. Throw in a little bull**** gambling and a slice of pizza because I am drunk and irresponsible and just happened to throw 100 bucks in my pocket before I left instead of 80 or something to force me to be more conservative? $100 bucks.

So i just rolled out to one of the better night scenes and had an awesome night off 100 bucks. On another night if I am more concerned about funds, maybe I find one of the free concerts, maybe I go out without drinking, maybe I find a DD driver who has the itch to go out, maybe I just go out and have some drinks and people watch -- forget the club or bar. During the day maybe I just go check out the mall and window shop, and meet some girls there. Maybe I mingle with girls at the grocery shop, MAYBE I meet a girl who came to Vegas WITH a high roller who is using HIM for his money and who feels like having a fun night with a charming, quick witted, little arrogant prick like me who still knows how to be charming and fun and not out to "Buy" her -- and she ends up running up his credit card for our little wild night of glory. Who knows.... It's Vegas....

There will be bad nights and there will be good nights -- Bad days and good days -- but what is the alternative for me? To rott in this small town? To move to cities with less going on, at higher prices, and more difficulty getting around? Places like Boston that can be fun but are smaller with less to do and that still have the harsh winters I so desperately seek to escape?? I mean despite everything Vegas still seems like a good choice to me. Now if I go out there and every girl is all about money and snotty and superficial no matter what? I will be a bit shocked, but damn -- theres always online dating. lol. :-)

[mrjason]

I'm sorry, but this guy is a tool. Oh, to be 24 again! I remember my first beer. Good luck with your silly plans. I bet Vegas will chew you up and spit you out. You might want to stay where you are, man.

Originally Posted by Mack wild

LOL. Well here is how *I* roll:

I'm a money pincher. I would either walk, get a ride, or take some sort of public transportation INTO town. If I was going to drink at all I would already have a nice buzz going by the time I even leave my apartment, I call it "pre-game". The alcohol I bought that I drank before I go out and the condoms -- would already be accounted for in the grocery budget. My cover would be pre-paid and on an average night would be $30 bucks. If I had time to kill I would roam around the streets or casino's and people watch. Then I would go to the club, be cool with the bouncers and employee's and get it so they know who I am -- that will pay off later down the road.

So now I am inside and I have likely spent absolutely nothing that is currently in my pocket. If you want to get technical I have spent 30 bucks. Of course now I want to revive my buzz a little bit so I will probably get a couple of drinks. Add $20. When the girl rolls up to me asking for a drink I will throw some zinger lines at her. I wont be buying her any drinks to "buy" her time -- she will like me for my personality or she will find some other chump to **** over. The first girl I get into a good conversation with where drinks come up, I will suggest SHE buy ME a god damned drink with a smirk on my face. IF she declines I will suggest we buy EACHOTHER a drink. She will buy me a drink, I will get her a tonic.

So now I am plenty buzzed and having fun and the total for the night is at like 50 bucks if you include the cover I pre-paid for. Maybe I feel like a lush and I drop down money for another drink. Im at 60. If there is no transportation after a certain hour and I don't have a local place to crash for the night then I guess I gotta get a cab. Make it $80. Throw in a little bull**** gambling and a slice of pizza because I am drunk and irresponsible and just happened to throw 100 bucks in my pocket before I left instead of 80 or something to force me to be more conservative? $100 bucks.

So i just rolled out to one of the better night scenes and had an awesome night off 100 bucks. On another night if I am more concerned about funds, maybe I find one of the free concerts, maybe I go out without drinking, maybe I find a DD driver who has the itch to go out, maybe I just go out and have some drinks and people watch -- forget the club or bar. During the day maybe I just go check out the mall and window shop, and meet some girls there. Maybe I mingle with girls at the grocery shop, MAYBE I meet a girl who came to Vegas WITH a high roller who is using HIM for his money and who feels like having a fun night with a charming, quick witted, little arrogant prick like me who still knows how to be charming and fun and not out to "Buy" her -- and she ends up running up his credit card for our little wild night of glory. Who knows.... It's Vegas....

There will be bad nights and there will be good nights -- Bad days and good days -- but what is the alternative for me? To rott in this small town? To move to cities with less going on, at higher prices, and more difficulty getting around? Places like Boston that can be fun but are smaller with less to do and that still have the harsh winters I so desperately seek to escape?? I mean despite everything Vegas still seems like a good choice to me. Now if I go out there and every girl is all about money and snotty and superficial no matter what? I will be a bit shocked, but damn -- theres always online dating. lol. :-)

[spike42]

Good road map, it should work.