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Old 09-04-2008, 07:09 PM
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Default How does the government of Nevada think education should be funded?

http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=8954691

With budget cuts left and right, no increase in property taxes (which I'm not really for) and now no room tax vote, what are the schools in this state going to do? I wonder if they believe that the money will just magically appear and that the schools will just get by. I know the teachers will still teach, many uses their own funds and resources, and our kids will get educated. But what will happen when the classes keep increasing in size, let's say 30 kids in a 1st grade classroom because there is no money left to hire more teachers? What quality of education will they get then? All children are different and they all learn at a different pace. What will happen to the child/children that does get "left behind"? Schools that let too many get left behind get in trouble. Without some funding coming from somewhere we will not be able to give our children the education they need to become productive adults.

Honestly, I would pay a tax, per child from ages 1-18 per year to help fund their education. People without kids would be exempt. And after your child turns 18, you would be able to stop paying too. Then they can make it tax deductible on our Federal taxes. Everyone wins!

For all of you that say private school is the way, I just don't have that kind of money laying around not to mention the thought of how much sending 2 kids would be. By the way, I had no idea that at Gorman, on top of the tuition, you have to buy your own books, like college. If I was shoveling out that kind of money I would expect that to be included in the price.

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Old 09-04-2008, 08:27 PM
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With budget cuts left and right, no increase in property taxes (which I'm not really for) and now no room tax vote, what are the schools in this state going to do? I wonder if they believe that the money will just magically appear and that the schools will just get by. I know the teachers will still teach, many uses their own funds and resources, and our kids will get educated. But what will happen when the classes keep increasing in size, let's say 30 kids in a 1st grade classroom because there is no money left to hire more teachers? What quality of education will they get then? All children are different and they all learn at a different pace. What will happen to the child/children that does get "left behind"? Schools that let too many get left behind get in trouble. Without some funding coming from somewhere we will not be able to give our children the education they need to become productive adults.

Honestly, I would pay a tax, per child from ages 1-18 per year to help fund their education. People without kids would be exempt. And after your child turns 18, you would be able to stop paying too. Then they can make it tax deductible on our Federal taxes. Everyone wins!

For all of you that say private school is the way, I just don't have that kind of money laying around not to mention the thought of how much sending 2 kids would be. By the way, I had no idea that at Gorman, on top of the tuition, you have to buy your own books, like college. If I was shoveling out that kind of money I would expect that to be included in the price.
I would not be opposed to that at all. Unfortunately I don't think that our politicians (or some of the parents out here for that matter) have the common sense to think rationally and logically about solutions that make absolute sense, such as the one that you posted.
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It's possible that Nevada's politicos enjoy having the worst education system in America. Sound ridicules? To me it does but until they prove otherwise then I shall continue to believe it.

The answer is what most every other state does. Lottery sales - which fund a huge amount of education.

According to Terribles Primm website, that single store is the top grossing lottery outlet in all of California. It has 19% more sales then the 2nd highest grosssing lotto store. This one store alone sells $214,000 in lotto sales alone each and every week. That comes out to a cool $11,128,000 per year for just this one store alone. Terribles estimates 90% or better of that $11 million are to Las Vegas residents. How does Nevada say bye bye to $11 million dollars each year? Ask them. California loves us.

When your offiicals were informed of these numbers they were shocked. They claim they had no idea the numbers were that high. This comes right from an LVRJ interview with state officials.

Yet every time the question of having a state lottery goes on the ballad in November here, the voters overwhelmingly vote YES WE WANT A LOTTERY. But the big bad casinos toss their threats around and the state officials back off like chicken s**ts. So again and again your govt does not listen to the people...what we want. We want a Lottery.

California pumps $1.28 billion into schools just from lotto revenue ($154 per pupil). It is estimated Nevada could possibly pump about half a billion dollars into schools in just the first year of operating a state lottery.

Just think of the possibilities !!!!!

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every time the question of having a state lottery goes on the ballad in November here, the voters overwhelmingly vote YES WE WANT A LOTTERY.
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Old 09-05-2008, 02:28 AM
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It's possible that Nevada's politicos enjoy having the worst education system in America. Sound ridicules? To me it does but until they prove otherwise then I shall continue to believe it.

The answer is what most every other state does. Lottery sales - which fund a huge amount of education.

According to Terribles Primm website, that single store is the top grossing lottery outlet in all of California. It has 19% more sales then the 2nd highest grosssing lotto store. This one store alone sells $214,000 in lotto sales alone each and every week. That comes out to a cool $11,128,000 per year for just this one store alone. Terribles estimates 90% or better of that $11 million are to Las Vegas residents. How does Nevada say bye bye to $11 million dollars each year? Ask them. California loves us.

When your offiicals were informed of these numbers they were shocked. They claim they had no idea the numbers were that high. This comes right from an LVRJ interview with state officials.

Yet every time the question of having a state lottery goes on the ballad in November here, the voters overwhelmingly vote YES WE WANT A LOTTERY. But the big bad casinos toss their threats around and the state officials back off like chicken s**ts. So again and again your govt does not listen to the people...what we want. We want a Lottery.

California pumps $1.28 billion into schools just from lotto revenue ($154 per pupil). It is estimated Nevada could possibly pump about half a billion dollars into schools in just the first year of operating a state lottery.

Just think of the possibilities !!!!!

********* Jim Gibbons !!
I'm surprised Richard Nixon and George Bush aren't from here. Crooked politics was invented in Nevada.

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My opinion on this is that I wouldn't want to pay any more taxes...that's why I'm here. Taxes are low.

Nevada is in last place for quality education because that's the way people want it. No one should move to Nevada to educate their kids and then complain about how bad it is.

We've NEVER been a good education state and never will. And as you can see by our huge growth already, most people are not overly concerned with the education ranking of the state...they are here anyway and sending their kids to school despite Nevada being low on those quality education lists.

They'll still be more new schools built, teachers will still teach, but attracting quality educators and our schools supplying our students with all the tools they need to learn will continue to just not happen.

Who cares if Nevada is ranked low on eduation lists? Kids are still getting educated here, they get the same high school diploma as they would get anywhere else in the country. Does it state on anyone's diploma what ranking their state had in any of the quality education/school ranking lists?

In a state like Nevada, parental involvement in their kid's education is more important here than in other places. To keep the kids on track, to instill good study habits, for the parents to NOT get caught up in the "we'll see you later, we're heading out to have some fun" mentality. It's why a lot of them moved the family here (especially Las Vegas) isn't it?

And why Nevada's kids typically don't score well on tests...and our schools rank so low on national education lists..

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Old 09-05-2008, 11:50 AM
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My opinion on this is that I wouldn't want to pay any more taxes...that's why I'm here. Taxes are low.

Nevada is in last place for quality education because that's the way people want it. No one should move to Nevada to educate their kids and then complain about how bad it is.

We've NEVER been a good education state and never will. And as you can see by our huge growth already, most people are not overly concerned with the education ranking of the state...they are here anyway and sending their kids to school despite Nevada being low on those quality education lists.

They'll still be more new schools built, teachers will still teach, but attracting quality educators and our schools supplying our students with all the tools they need to learn will continue to just not happen.

Who cares if Nevada is ranked low on eduation lists? Kids are still getting educated here, they get the same high school diploma as they would get anywhere else in the country. Does it state on anyone's diploma what ranking their state had in any of the quality education/school ranking lists?

In a state like Nevada, parental involvement in their kid's education is more important here than in other places. To keep the kids on track, to instill good study habits, for the parents to NOT get caught up in the "we'll see you later, we're heading out to have some fun" mentality. It's why a lot of them moved the family here (especially Las Vegas) isn't it?

And why Nevada's kids typically don't score well on tests...and our schools rank so low on national education lists..
Good points.

If we spend to much on education kids would get smart, would'nt gamble and would move away.
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Old 09-05-2008, 11:55 AM
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That's your own negative opinion. Kids here get the standard education, nothing more, nothing less. Parents are not as involved in their kids education as they should be.

In a state where education is not a priority, the parents need to step up and fill the void as much as possible.

And considering most of the State's population are transplants....and have been "better" educated elsewhere...your statement doesn't apply my friend.

I wish people would just understand that Nevada does not put a high priority on education...this state is dedicated to tourists and always will be. If folks want the highest education standards for their kids...they should'nt move here.

It won't stop them though frisco...they're still going to come here...bad education budget/system and all

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That's your own negative opinion. Kids here get the standard education, nothing more, nothing less. Parents are not as involved in their kids education as they should be.

In a state where education is not a priority, the parents need to step up and fill the void as much as possible.

And considering most of the State's population are transplants....and have been "better" educated elsewhere...your statement doesn't apply my friend.
Give this forum a break, MomMom. And get back in your positive opinions box. You seem to have very good heart for future generations of this country. All we need is little bit more of your positive opinions like "We've NEVER been a good education state and never will." and "Who cares if Nevada is ranked low on eduation lists? " and few idiots in Reno will do it. Thanks.
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