[Golfinnova]

Originally Posted by tm042567

You are stuck on this pig farm deal. With pigs you only have to fear downwind days when the fine aroma drifts your way. A little stink won't kill your kids or kidnap them or hurt them sexually or physically. Again, like the first post said - RESEARCH BEFORE YOU BUY. I don't think "pig farm" hits the yellow pages, could be wrong....but who would buy and think to ask along the way, "Any good pig farms in the neighbhorhood? Next door neighbor selling guns?" The pig farm won't shoot your children at the school bus stops.

What about the ostrich farm you missed that is close Floyd Lamb State Park? What about the Gilcrease Orchards where they have a lot of traffic during that once-a-year fruit picking thing? What about the gay guy off Ann Road that hosts the gay rodeo every year that has a lot of traffic and possibly people practicing - coming and going - since he hosts rodeos?

I zoned in on telling people to do their homework. I also zoned in on guns because that is the only deadly and most violent kind of thing to live next too, especially mixed with pedophiles. The other things are mere inconveniences - not fatal.

LMAO, are you serious???? Talk about doing your own homework, let's get to the facts shall we?

First of all, the orchard is only open from 7-noon. The only "traffic" they have is the dirt roads that border the fence "ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY". They don't affect anyone travelling along Grand Teton, Rainbow or Tenaya. The 6th tee box of the Desert Course of Silverstone overlooks the orchard, my friends and I often watch the few cars that stop to pick the fruit and wonder what all is grown in the orchard.

Next, about the "gay guy" on Ann Road. I have 2 words for you "WHO CARES"? Whatever his sexual orientation is his business. I have family members and former employees who are gay and I don't think any less of them. So why are you coming across as the biggest homophobe? You think that only gay people live in just the 89131 zip code.

I've been here with my family (includes 4-year old twins) for over a year now and there hasn't been one incident that makes me think that the area is unsafe. I also have a high school classmate who has been here for over 4 years living down the street from me with his 8-year old son, he also has nothing but the highest accolades for the area.

Once again folks, we have someone who doesn't know the facts before posting.

[von949]

Before I move to Vegas I hope a White Castle is built out there.

[tm042567]

Just read government pages for the shooting range....it's in the 89131 zip code as well...again research the area and your neighbors before you buy - ask about what those "patches of dirt" are fixin' to become.

Per NV Govt page for their city meetings:

Shooting Park address will be 11357 N. Decatur Blvd 89131.

[tm042567]

About the rodeo and orchard - WHO CARES - maybe you don't but others do. Ever hear of homophobic people? Prejudiced people? Folks that don't want traffic due to fruit picking? Or the other folks that could care less? Ever hear of freedom of choice - First Amendment - so why is one not to do their homework and make a decision based on fact versus unknown? Did it not occur that if someone buys something for $500,000 and then finds out what they live next to, that could depreciate the value of land/home, they might just end up being a neighbor from hell? Disgruntled buyer? So....why not encourage people to do their research, figure it out before they buy so they aren't disappointed and losers happy in crime-ridden 89131 zip remains happy and isolated and in the unknown with visions of sugar plums dancing in their heads?

What is it? All this opposition because you people are afraid others will do research and figure out the truth before they buy? My whole point for posting anything - PREVENTATIVE MEASURES.

Due to the cost of living, did anyone care to speak of about 5 foreclosures - empty houses - on Deer Springs on Revital Court - oxymoron there. Buy amongst closed homes, predators and gun stores for $400,000? Sorry, but a buyer has every right to know about the area before they buy..even a foreclosure for a "good buy".

Did anyone care to inform people in 89130 and 89131 zip that on Lone Mountain and Jones = Gang territories? Nope...didn't think so. That's only about 5 miles away from the gun shop.

You folks living in a "perfect" neighborhood with your high school bed buddies? You haven't done one ounce of homework. Reality = what's out there...not your cheerleading, uneducated theories. Go pick your fruit and leave real research up to potential buyers - folks that seriously care - folks that are smart enough to check out this area or any other area before they buy.

Those of you fighting that thought, how much are you trying to hide in your zip code? Quit while you're ahead and I reveal more and more.

[tm042567]

Maybe folks don't care about traffic or gay people...but did the word "bugs" come to mind? I personally wouldn't buy property next to an orchard due to bugs in my house - but that's me....MY CHOICE...some of you find feeding bugs and calling them housepets an A1 neighborhood. For the price tag of $400,000 to $500,000 I expect more than that.

Then...rodeos = tons of flies due to horse dung...the fine aroma over your family barbecue when the wind is just right....

Again, all of your answers are very superficial, not researched and you bought a home to say you live in an area. There's more to an area than a name. For the price, one would want more than some areas have to offer. However, LIKE I HAVE STATED REPEATEDLY, do your homework since all zip codes in Vegas = slapped together, apartments with huge homes and god only knows what else.

Everyone is entitled to freedom of choice. Those of you arguing about research and choosing freely is nothing but behavior indicative of control freaks. Who wants to live next to that attitude? I sure don't. When you fight to hide what's in your zip code, that's revealing in and of itself. How much crime are you stuffing under the rug in hopes to land a neighbor who will buy, find out the truth, become disgruntled and then hate you for your deception? Ever think that honesty up-front is sometimes best? At least then you get the "right" neigbhors who are equal cheerleaders with you and your high school buddy...and if you graduated 4 years ago - you haven't left home, haven't left the neighborhood, probably still live with mommy and daddy, age 22...WHY WOULD THEY LISTEN TO YOU? You have lived where else in Vegas? Your knowledge base is expanded how far? You have read how many books outsde of Charlotte's Web? You bought a home in the ONLY area you know. Your vision is tunnel - shortened - not worth paying attention to. Knowledge base is quicksand, not formed, unestablished.

[tm042567]

Some folks wish to buy a house - get a bang for their buck - so one would have to ask, "What's wrong with 89131 zip code considering the values of homes have depreciated consistently for 5 years?" Henderson, Lake Las Vegas, and Summerlin have appreciated since prominent figures live there - Celene Dion, at one point Michael Jackson, professional athletes, Wayne Newton, and Kenny Rogers...BUT NOT ONE BOUGHT IN 89131 ZIP AS WELL AS JUDGES, ATTORNEYS, MANY DOCTORS...EVEN STEVE WYNN - HOTEL OWNER - LIVES IN HENDERSON. If 89131 were so great, safe, not redneck or prone to depreciate, why is it no one of importance lives there? What kind of good, prominent people live in 89131? None? Exactly. So if a family were prone to raise loser kids around loser kids that learn to spit tobacco in redneck-ville, 89131 is perfect. However, if one wishes to live uptown, decent standard of living, raising their children around decent children, then they might think otherwise....do their research - learn who their neighbors are going to be. Celene Dion or some old, idiot making guns in his backyard? Celene has the ways and means and celebrity title to at least appreciate land value, not depreciate it unlike a redneck, backyard gun man.

Before you boast too hard and too much about your little piece of land - do your homework and figure out where you really stand and how much money you have lost by buying into certain zip codes.

[LiveinPA]

Since when does a gun shop mean that people will shoot you?

Do you huddle in fear at your local Walmart? (they sell guns, you know...a ton of them actually, and ammo)

I get your point to investigate where you move but...I'm seeing a disconnect here. I was not aware that gun stores meant people were going to shoot you or that kids could get free guns or something.

To my knowledge, convicted pedophiles can't own guns...and proximity to a gunshop doesn't mean they get free ones either.

It's completely irrational to think that because you live a near a gun shop, you'll get shot or something. There are plenty of people with concealed carry licenses that you're around every day without knowing it and there's a very good chance that there are guns in neighbors' homes around you.

I would worry a lot more about the pedophile than an inanimate object.

[tm042567]

Originally Posted by LiveinPA

Since when does a gun shop mean that people will shoot you?

Do you huddle in fear at your local Walmart? (they sell guns, you know...a ton of them actually, and ammo)

I get your point to investigate where you move but...I'm seeing a disconnect here. I was not aware that gun stores meant people were going to shoot you or that kids could get free guns or something.

To my knowledge, convicted pedophiles can't own guns...and proximity to a gunshop doesn't mean they get free ones either.

It's completely irrational to think that because you live a near a gun shop, you'll get shot or something. There are plenty of people with concealed carry licenses that you're around every day without knowing it and there's a very good chance that there are guns in neighbors' homes around you.

I would worry a lot more about the pedophile than an inanimate object.

What if your gun peddler only reports 1/2 or 1/3 of guns sold in order to avoid paying the IRS? Then your pedophile, for extra bucks can and will get a gun - 1/2 to 2/3 of a chance. What about children buying guns in this shop without signed parental consent and/or parent present? That means firearms are traded and sold easier than you think they are. Look at the man - 77 - pay IRS correctly or report all monies earned honestly and lose his Social Security income?

You see, people aren't looking at the entire picture - only a tunnel-vision version. This is where things get murky and sticky. When an old man wants money who is out there to think about safety for the family, kids and homes? All of you scream - LET THE OLD MAN DO BUSINESS...Why? Because your children aren't dead yet? Or would you be a worthless jerk on the news screaming - HOW DID THE KIDS GET THE GUNS?????? when they are dead? I don't want to see that - I am giving people an opportunity to figure this out - and you freaks argue????? You argue about pre-statistics? How many people do you want dead before you stop it??? How many people do you want murdered with guns with no serial numbers from the aforementioned shop before you stop defending it? Sure...it's illegal....but NV is land of felons if you haven't figured that out...in fact the gun shop hires an ex-felon to fix pistols....but it's ok - he's in business since the 1960s.....

This is land of the lawless and one must plan accordingly or buy burial plots at the end of Mello Ave/Jones at Palm Mortuary and don't show your face on my news begging for self-pity since I have forewarned folks.

[Daddys///M3]

Originally Posted by tm042567

Some folks wish to buy a house - get a bang for their buck - so one would have to ask, "What's wrong with 89131 zip code considering the values of homes have depreciated consistently for 5 years?" Henderson, Lake Las Vegas, and Summerlin have appreciated since prominent figures live there - Celene Dion, at one point Michael Jackson, professional athletes, Wayne Newton, and Kenny Rogers...BUT NOT ONE BOUGHT IN 89131 ZIP AS WELL AS JUDGES, ATTORNEYS, MANY DOCTORS...EVEN STEVE WYNN - HOTEL OWNER - LIVES IN HENDERSON. If 89131 were so great, safe, not redneck or prone to depreciate, why is it no one of importance lives there? What kind of good, prominent people live in 89131? None? Exactly. So if a family were prone to raise loser kids around loser kids that learn to spit tobacco in redneck-ville, 89131 is perfect. However, if one wishes to live uptown, decent standard of living, raising their children around decent children, then they might think otherwise....do their research - learn who their neighbors are going to be. Celene Dion or some old, idiot making guns in his backyard? Celene has the ways and means and celebrity title to at least appreciate land value, not depreciate it unlike a redneck, backyard gun man.

Before you boast too hard and too much about your little piece of land - do your homework and figure out where you really stand and how much money you have lost by buying into certain zip codes.

Although I agree with the premise of doing your homework about a particular neighborhood before moving into it, the points you use to back it up are weak. 89131 has been depreciating for the last 5 years? Are you serious? I bought out here in 2005 and between then and the beginning of 2006 I saw about $50,000 in appreciation (about 16% in a year) before the values started falling. Guess what? Values and prices are falling EVERYWHERE. The reason why 89131 is such a great buy is a) the large amount of foreclosures in this zip code due to speculators and people that couldn't really afford a home in the first place and b) 89131 is located at the far NW edge of town, so one settles for a longer commute to have more home and more yard for the same money.

As far as your loser kids and redneck comment goes, you are way off-base their and you either have an extreme bias against the area or you have an agenda against it. Not everyone can afford to live next to Celine (who would really want to anyway, honestly) and there are quite a few good, honest, hard working people in this area with great kids and our elementary schools are definitely in the upper tier regarding test scores. You can make your point without bashing everyone that lives in a certain zip code.

FWIW, very little of the 89131 zip code is semi-rural. Most of it is to the north of 215 and to the west of Jones, and most of it is fully developed suburb. I live two blocks west of the Gilcrease Orchard on Grand Teton, and around the corner from the bird sanctuary (not an ostrich farm). Zero issues with either spot. No extra noise, no extra traffic, no bug infestations. Your claims are unfounded. You thought that the bird sanctuary was an ostrich farm, I would say that speaks volumes about what you know and what you think you know about 89131.

[tom_c]

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