[tm042567]

Before you move, do your research and REALLY figure out what is going to live next door to you or across the street. The reason I say this is because many of you relocating have families and want safety for your kids. Las Vegas has very lax rules to the point where in the 89131 zip code there is a small gun shop, operating at this guy's house, with a convicted child molester/kidnapper across the street with all of the children's bus stops in front of the shop and molester's home. I would think that people would research that live in the area to ensure their kids' safety, but now I think people have purchased expensive homes, thinking everything is safe - after all for a $300,000 to $400,000 the neigbhorhood better be safe, right? Well obviously not in all circumstances.

Some people might figure that if a molester were going to hurt their child, the gun shop would kill him. Easy assumption - but what if the gun shop is selling guns to the molester to make hurting kids easier? As a parent, if I lived in that area, I would put pressure on the school district to move the bus stops or I would get to know my neighbors and arrange carpools or I would be at the bus stop every day. Also, last school year, Vegas had many shootouts throughout the school at the bus stops and in the schools. In the first month of school last year, something like 60 guns were confiscated from kids.

Before you move, I simply recommend and urge you to do your homework, research everything to make certain you are fully informed regarding the area you are going to move in to. Just be aware of what's around you so you can safeguard your families and homes accordingly. If there is potential danger or something that worries you, get together with your neighbors and develop a plan of action as a team since you get better results with numbers versus individuals. What I am saying is really applicable to any city you move to, however, Vegas, I swear sometimes, is the gathering place for felons - City of Sin - Land of the Lawless so the laws are extremely lax. What is permitted here would be outlawed in many other states. This is something else you have to take into consideration. Do you want to really live in that kind of environment or are you looking for something more regimented with laws looking out for your families' best interest? If so, then you might reconsider relocating to Las Vegas period. Find something more "family geared - family oriented." Again, if you are stuck on the idea of moving to Vegas, learn your surroundings BEFORE you make any major purchases and then make that decision on known facts instead of assumptions. If you do that, you will like Vegas much more - guaranteed. Otherwise, if you buy and then discover, you might be a bit angry, feeling betrayed and deceived....but again this could be in Anytown, USA.

[kimba01]

Mostly good, sound advice. Thank you.

Just wondering though, do you have a link to the information regarding shootouts that were at many bus stops. Just wondering what "many shootouts" means. Not that one is good, but just for overall info.

And great advice for moving anywhere, actually. You never know who the "nice guy down the street" really is, whether you are in "Sin City" or "Paradise Cove". Great looking, expensive towns do not scare away predators-anywhere.

[guinnessjim]

Originally Posted by kimba01

Mostly good, sound advice. Thank you.

Just wondering though, do you have a link to the information regarding shootouts that were at many bus stops. Just wondering what "many shootouts" means. Not that one is good, but just for overall info.

And great advice for moving anywhere, actually. You never know who the "nice guy down the street" really is, whether you are in "Sin City" or "Paradise Cove". Great looking, expensive towns do not scare away predators-anywhere.

regular is way too strong a term. the OP is exaggerating a bit to make his/her point (IMO). did unfortunately happen at least once last year.

[kimba01]

Yeah, I knew about the once, which isn't good, but MANY is worse.

Unfortunately, there is always one idiot.

[tm042567]

Originally Posted by kimba01

Just wondering though, do you have a link to the information regarding shootouts that were at many bus stops. Just wondering what "many shootouts" means. Not that one is good, but just for overall info.

Go to lasvegasnow.com and look under investigative reporting January and February of 2008 - this year - last school year. They had a series of problems with kids shooting each other in incident and in another incident 6 kids were shot and I think it was by a high school graduate waiting at the bus stop. Please don't quote me - Go to lasvegasnow.com and it will tell you.

Also my thing about "do your research" - this summer the people that bought land and expensive homes near a high school learned that the shooting range is going in across the street from the school and all day long these happy homeowners have to hear guns going off and hope there are no stray bullets aimed at their backyard. When they bought their houses, they didn't know that there this acreage reserved for the shooting range 15-20 years ago. The people didn't start building until now - after the school was built and people bought and moved into their homes. Some don't care - Others care in a big way - Some said if they would have known that patch of desert was going to be a shooting range, they would have purchased a house elsewhere in town. This story is also on lasvegasnow.com...and I am sure these stories on kvbc.com....all the local news channels.

[tm042567]

Originally Posted by guinnessjim

regular is way too strong a term. the OP is exaggerating a bit to make his/her point (IMO). did unfortunately happen at least once last year.

No,I did not exaggerate to get a point across. Like I said, go to lasvegasnow.com. There were a series of incidents with school kids and guns back-to-back. I don't think there were many fatalities, mostly injuries, so it didn't make it on the news with great emphasis along the lines of massacre like Columbine. It was nothing that big or in large crowds to that magnitude. It was a group of small incidences, but enough to get moms on TV cryin' and enough to make a news watcher's eyebrows raise.

[airics]

so where is this supposed gun shop.. and do you really think i would believe this?

[guinnessjim]

Originally Posted by tm042567

No,I did not exaggerate to get a point across. Like I said, go to lasvegasnow.com. There were a series of incidents with school kids and guns back-to-back. I don't think there were many fatalities, mostly injuries, so it didn't make it on the news with great emphasis along the lines of massacre like Columbine. It was nothing that big or in large crowds to that magnitude. It was a group of small incidences, but enough to get moms on TV cryin' and enough to make a news watcher's eyebrows raise.

and i quote:

Originally Posted by tm042567

Also, last school year, Vegas had many shootouts throughout the school at the bus stops and in the schools.

as far as i recall, there was one bus stop incident....lets just say i am wrong by an factor of 4...that still is 4. not really many, hence, IMO an exaggeration. not sure how many incidents there were at the schools in general, but i don't recall hearing about it any more frequently here than other places.

you can argue that one is too many (i won't dispute that), but your characterization of many needs qualification.

[MR77]

I agree that there is an overall lack of enforcement of law in Las Vegas and there seems to be a 'look the other way" sort of mentality here. Selling guns out of the back of your home does not seem like a far fetched story. Im sure it happens all over the valley. Do you know how many sex clubs are run out of average looking stucco homes here? Its a widespread problem, not that I would know anything about sex clubs...

[kimba01]

That does stink about the shooting range. Unfortunately, when you buy a new build in an area where there is enough land around for more development-one takes a chance of having something less than desirable built near them. Could be a new strip club, casino, shooting range, golf course or what have you. Better to buy in an established area then.