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My husband and I have been talking alot about moving with our 5 year old daughter to Las Vegas. We have visited twice (once in March, once in August) and loved it. Can you PLEASE tell me the pros and cons about living there. As well as where to live and not live. Things that parents of a young child should know. We currentally live in Springfield MO. Thank you very much!!
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My husband and I have been talking alot about moving with our 5 year old daughter to Las Vegas. We have visited twice (once in March, once in August) and loved it. Can you PLEASE tell me the pros and cons about living there. As well as where to live and not live. Things that parents of a young child should know. We currentally live in Springfield MO. Thank you very much!!
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Next as to places your question is still too generic to really answer but if you go to the following map just live anywhere green or yellow and you will be fine. Turns out that income and good schools pretty much go with the low crime.

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Pros:
No state income tax
Great weather all year round (see con though)
Low crime and traffic (compared to major US cities)
Lots of things to do: boating, hiking, skiing (Mt. Charleston), and of course golf
Plenty of parks for children
Lots of foreclosures which means you can find great deals in a house.

Cons:
Summer months are very hot, while the heat is a dry heat the temps go up to 112-117 degrees. I highly recommend anyone thinking of moving here spend at least one week in the middle of the summer to see if the move is worth it. If you need the 4 seasons, this may not be the place for you.

The schools aren't the greatest, if you come from a good school system, you may have some issues with the teachers.

While there are jobs available in the area, you need to keep foremost in mind that Las Vegas is mainly a service-oriented city so there are not a lot of jobs in technology, government, professional sector. As you will see in other threads, the key is obtaining a job before you move or have at least 2 months of living expenses in hand because of how tough the job market is right now.

The drivers here drive pretty nuts. You have to practice defensive driving every time especially at intersections since there are quite a bit of red-light and stop sign runners. I saw 2 people do this yesterday while visiting clients.
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My husband and I have been talking alot about moving with our 5 year old daughter to Las Vegas. We have visited twice (once in March, once in August) and loved it. Can you PLEASE tell me the pros and cons about living there. As well as where to live and not live. Things that parents of a young child should know. We currentally live in Springfield MO. Thank you very much!!


My husband, myself and my parents, moved to Vegas four years ago. We like the climate, and there are some beautiful spots to live in such as Summerlin near Red Rock, and or Lake Las Vegas, but be prepared to have a pretty penny for those areas. (Prices for homes in that area I believe start at 300,000 to Millions) You want to go mostly North, North West, zip code 89138, 89141, 89135 all good areas, look at Realtor.com see what you can find. Pull up the Las Vegas zip code map on line and take a look at it know where every thing is. Henderson near Seven Hills area is also nice, but pricey. You want to stay clear of areas near the Strip and North East Vegas. The best is as far to the West of the Strip as possible.

In my own personal experience, I have found Vegas to be pretty nasty, filled with uneducated people, predators, unscrupulous people who cannot wait to take advantage of someone who is, down just to profit off of them and make a buck. The people are narcissistic, selfish, shallow who lie, cheat, rob, and steal. They are snobs. Service poor, restaurants over priced. I have a few friends here but most of them have left Vegas. Geese, I wonder why? It is a known fact that 60% of people who live here are on drugs, we have the gangs and the outlaws, and beggars. Not to mention the drunken a55holes!

In my experience people seem to have no morals, no values, they care more about their Mercedes and their plastic looks rather then helping someone in need. The people discriminate, and the Gov. is pretty corrupt. The Major is disgusting he is always partying and running around with the show girls!

We lived in the Philadelphia suburbs for 23 years before we moved here. We also moved here after visiting. I hate the Strip and rarely go there, we never gamble, because we work hard for our money.

Hahahahah, you should have seen us trying to order a Philly Cheese Steak in this GOD FORSAKEN HELL HOLE, right after we moved! What kind of idiots, do not know what that is? Maybe my expectations were too high.

I don’t regret moving because it was an experience, it has made us stronger, but it has aged us as well. We were also victims of predator lending. We now own a beautiful condo where out of 280 units only 17 are owned the rest are rented out buy the builder. We are basically living in an apartment complex now, the sales office is a leasing office, I am angry and bitter and nothing will change that! I try to let go of the anger but I can not. This was our first home purchase. It ought to be against the law what the builder did to us. The Law here is jacked! Living in a apartment complex where we own a condo unit? What do you think that does to our equity? It is bull @$%# that is what it is! We have no rights forget the CCNRS. We will never purchase a condo ever again. Another lesson learned.

We are packed in like sardines, too close for comfort. Homes have no land you will not have property or peace and quiet, and the associations own you. The apartments are Ghettoish to me, by my standards. Not what I am use to. We didn’t do our research well before we left PA.

We were communicating with the apartment community we chose from PA and they knew when we were arriving here at least two months, in advanced. They knew two weeks in advanced, a day in advanced and two hours in advanced yet when we got here and went in the office to pick up our keys and sign the lease, the property manager was drunk seriously, drunk, and we had all of our stuff with us furniture, cars, my parents and a cat etc. We had no where to stay because at that moment they were changing out the carpet in one apartment and cleaning the carpet in the other. They were not ready for us. We had no choice but to go to another apartment complex and they took $6000 from us in security deposit why? Because we didn’t have a job lined up here. That was our mistake and we paid for that. We ended up moving 4 times before we moved in our own Condo, which was a night mare from the beginning to present.

Finding a job? It was hard before the economy sunk now it will be pretty impossible. Make sure you have money, for at least 6 months, or a job prior to moving.

My mother had 16 years experience in the medical field and it took her two years to be hired by a Hospital. Now she has a great job and I can not ask to uproot her again, so it is difficult to think of leaving my elder parents here and moving. They are glad that at least they do not have to worry about snow.

I don’t believe in the quality of life in Vegas. It is not a place for raising children that is for sure, I do not have children and thank God because I wouldn't raise them here, no way! I have a few friends with children and they are unhappy here as well they are looking to move to take their children out of Vegas before they hit school age.

Once you are here it will be tough to go of course because you just made a long distance trip and you will have to recuperate and regroup and have the money to do it all over again. It is a decision you have to give a lot of thought. We didn’t. We had no one to tell us of their experiences. Experiences are many and unfortunately for us they are mostly bad.

I was laid off of work three weeks ago due to the economic crisis, my husbands work is slow and we are in a short sale. Homes are still over priced and the salaries are not on the same level with the cost of living they are below cost of living. In August there were 22,000 homes under foreclosure, and I am not sure how high it is now. So you are the judge of how Vegas sounds?

I need to have a home on an acre of land at least some where else some where, were we can have peace and quiet. We are looking at somewhere were the cost of living is lower and salaries higher. So far we came up with a posibility in Texas.

We are in search of a better place to live. We are doing our research now. Since we have been here we have experienced nothing but stress and heart ache. This is not the place for us. We have never been this unhappy. This is what we have been through in a nut shell. We can not wait to get out of Vegas. Hope this information has helped you. I wish you luck.

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My husband and I have been talking alot about moving with our 5 year old daughter to Las Vegas. We have visited twice (once in March, once in August) and loved it. Can you PLEASE tell me the pros and cons about living there. As well as where to live and not live. Things that parents of a young child should know. We currentally live in Springfield MO. Thank you very much!!


My husband, myself and my parents, moved to Vegas four years ago. We like the climate, and there are some beautiful spots to live in such as Summerlin near Red Rock, and or Lake Las Vegas, but be prepared to have a pretty penny for those areas. (Prices for homes in that area I believe start at 300,000 to Millions) You want to go mostly North, North West, zip code 89138, 89141, 89135 all good areas, look at Realtor.com see what you can find. Pull up the Las Vegas zip code map on line and take a look at it know where every thing is. Henderson near Seven Hills area is also nice, but pricey. You want to stay clear of areas near the Strip and North East Vegas. The best is as far to the West of the Strip as possible.

In my own personal experience, I have found Vegas to be pretty nasty, filled with uneducated people, predators, unscrupulous people who cannot wait to take advantage of someone who is, down just to profit off of them and make a buck. The people are narcissistic, selfish, shallow who lie, cheat, rob, and steal. They are snobs. Service poor, restaurants over priced. I have a few friends here but most of them have left Vegas. Geese, I wonder why? It is a known fact that 60% of people who live here are on drugs, we have the gangs and the outlaws, and beggars. Not to mention the drunken a55holes!

In my experience people seem to have no morals, no values, they care more about their Mercedes and their plastic looks rather then helping someone in need. The people discriminate, and the Gov. is pretty corrupt. The Major is disgusting he is always partying and running around with the show girls!

We lived in the Philadelphia suburbs for 23 years before we moved here. We also moved here after visiting. I hate the Strip and rarely go there, we never gamble, because we work hard for our money.

Hahahahah, you should have seen us trying to order a Philly Cheese Steak in this GOD FORSAKEN HELL HOLE, right after we moved! What kind of idiots, do not know what that is? Maybe my expectations were too high.

I don’t regret moving because it was an experience, it has made us stronger, but it has aged us as well. We were also victims of predator lending. We now own a beautiful condo where out of 280 units only 17 are owned the rest are rented out buy the builder. We are basically living in an apartment complex now, the sales office is a leasing office, I am angry and bitter and nothing will change that! I try to let go of the anger but I can not. This was our first home purchase. It ought to be against the law what the builder did to us. The Law here is jacked! Living in a apartment complex where we own a condo unit? What do you think that does to our equity? It is bull @$%# that is what it is! We have no rights forget the CCNRS. We will never purchase a condo ever again. Another lesson learned.

We are packed in like sardines, too close for comfort. Homes have no land you will not have property or peace and quiet, and the associations own you. The apartments are Ghettoish to me, by my standards. Not what I am use to. We didn’t do our research well before we left PA.

We were communicating with the apartment community we chose from PA and they knew when we were arriving here at least two months, in advanced. They knew two weeks in advanced, a day in advanced and two hours in advanced yet when we got here and went in the office to pick up our keys and sign the lease, the property manager was drunk seriously, drunk, and we had all of our stuff with us furniture, cars, my parents and a cat etc. We had no where to stay because at that moment they were changing out the carpet in one apartment and cleaning the carpet in the other. They were not ready for us. We had no choice but to go to another apartment complex and they took $6000 from us in security deposit why? Because we didn’t have a job lined up here. That was our mistake and we paid for that. We ended up moving 4 times before we moved in our own Condo, which was a night mare from the beginning to present.

Finding a job? It was hard before the economy sunk now it will be pretty impossible. Make sure you have money, for at least 6 months, or a job prior to moving.

My mother had 16 years experience in the medical field and it took her two years to be hired by a Hospital. Now she has a great job and I can not ask to uproot her again, so it is difficult to think of leaving my elder parents here and moving. They are glad that at least they do not have to worry about snow.

I don’t believe in the quality of life in Vegas. It is not a place for raising children that is for sure, I do not have children and thank God because I wouldn't raise them here, no way! I have a few friends with children and they are unhappy here as well they are looking to move to take their children out of Vegas before they hit school age.

Once you are here it will be tough to go of course because you just made a long distance trip and you will have to recuperate and regroup and have the money to do it all over again. It is a decision you have to give a lot of thought. We didn’t. We had no one to tell us of their experiences. Experiences are many and unfortunately for us they are mostly bad.

I was laid off of work three weeks ago due to the economic crisis, my husbands work is slow and we are in a short sale. Homes are still over priced and the salaries are not on the same level with the cost of living they are below cost of living. In August there were 22,000 homes under foreclosure, and I am not sure how high it is now. So you are the judge of how Vegas sounds?

I need to have a home on an acre of land at least some where else some where, were we can have peace and quiet. We are looking at somewhere were the cost of living is lower and salaries higher. So far we came up with a posibility in Texas.

We are in search of a better place to live. We are doing our research now. Since we have been here we have experienced nothing but stress and heart ache. This is not the place for us. We have never been this unhappy. This is what we have been through in a nut shell. We can not wait to get out of Vegas. Hope this information has helped you. I wish you luck.
that sucks, but please..

Don't want to hear that you were victim of 'predatory' lending practices. its a cheap cop-out..were you not TOLD ahead of time about your loan type ( ARM,Balloon,etc)?! people like you are part of the reason why we have this mortgage crisis in the first place, because you failed to read the fine print on your loan application, failed to have an accountant read over things, failed to use a lawyer to read through the fine print, etc..this 'I did nothing wrong,the banks are at fault, not me' defense is ridiculous..it takes two to tango...yes the banks are at fault, and so are you.50/50..this is not a personal attack on you, but on people who have
allowed themselves to be taken by the banks and have forced the rest of us to pay for their errors..you're just as much to blame for the current financial crisis as the banks are..

remember the saying 'if something seems too good to be true,it usually is'?
well, thats probably what happened with you...you bought their sales pitch,hook ,line, and sinker. you got snookered.It's not my fault, its your fault, don't blame 'predatory lending' ..and don't ask me to bail you out..
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that sucks, but please..

Don't want to hear that you were victim of 'predatory' lending practices. its a cheap cop-out..were you not TOLD ahead of time about your loan type ( ARM,Balloon,etc)?! people like you are part of the reason why we have this mortgage crisis in the first place, because you failed to read the fine print on your loan application, failed to have an accountant read over things, failed to use a lawyer to read through the fine print, etc..this 'I did nothing wrong,the banks are at fault, not me' defense is ridiculous..it takes two to tango...yes the banks are at fault, and so are you.50/50..this is not a personal attack on you, but on people who have
allowed themselves to be taken by the banks and have forced the rest of us to pay for their errors..you're just as much to blame for the current financial crisis as the banks are..

remember the saying 'if something seems too good to be true,it usually is'?
well, thats probably what happened with you...you bought their sales pitch,hook ,line, and sinker. you got snookered.It's not my fault, its your fault, don't blame 'predatory lending' ..and don't ask me to bail you out..
Right On! Thats a rep!
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that sucks, but please..

Don't want to hear that you were victim of 'predatory' lending practices. its a cheap cop-out..were you not TOLD ahead of time about your loan type ( ARM,Balloon,etc)?! people like you are part of the reason why we have this mortgage crisis in the first place, because you failed to read the fine print on your loan application, failed to have an accountant read over things, failed to use a lawyer to read through the fine print, etc..this 'I did nothing wrong,the banks are at fault, not me' defense is ridiculous..it takes two to tango...yes the banks are at fault, and so are you.50/50..this is not a personal attack on you, but on people who have
allowed themselves to be taken by the banks and have forced the rest of us to pay for their errors..you're just as much to blame for the current financial crisis as the banks are..

remember the saying 'if something seems too good to be true,it usually is'?
well, thats probably what happened with you...you bought their sales pitch,hook ,line, and sinker. you got snookered.It's not my fault, its your fault, don't blame 'predatory lending' ..and don't ask me to bail you out..
Homes are overpriced? Are you serious? At this time, they are a bargain and so are the property taxes.... Go to Texas and i am sure you will be on the Texas forums complaining about Texas!
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My husband and I have been talking alot about moving with our 5 year old daughter to Las Vegas. We have visited twice (once in March, once in August) and loved it. Can you PLEASE tell me the pros and cons about living there. As well as where to live and not live. Things that parents of a young child should know. We currentally live in Springfield MO. Thank you very much!!


My husband, myself and my parents, moved to Vegas four years ago. We like the climate, and there are some beautiful spots to live in such as Summerlin near Red Rock, and or Lake Las Vegas, but be prepared to have a pretty penny for those areas. (Prices for homes in that area I believe start at 300,000 to Millions) You want to go mostly North, North West, zip code 89138, 89141, 89135 all good areas, look at Realtor.com see what you can find. Pull up the Las Vegas zip code map on line and take a look at it know where every thing is. Henderson near Seven Hills area is also nice, but pricey. You want to stay clear of areas near the Strip and North East Vegas. The best is as far to the West of the Strip as possible.

In my own personal experience, I have found Vegas to be pretty nasty, filled with uneducated people, predators, unscrupulous people who cannot wait to take advantage of someone who is, down just to profit off of them and make a buck. The people are narcissistic, selfish, shallow who lie, cheat, rob, and steal. They are snobs. Service poor, restaurants over priced. I have a few friends here but most of them have left Vegas. Geese, I wonder why? It is a known fact that 60% of people who live here are on drugs, we have the gangs and the outlaws, and beggars. Not to mention the drunken a55holes!

In my experience people seem to have no morals, no values, they care more about their Mercedes and their plastic looks rather then helping someone in need. The people discriminate, and the Gov. is pretty corrupt. The Major is disgusting he is always partying and running around with the show girls!

We lived in the Philadelphia suburbs for 23 years before we moved here. We also moved here after visiting. I hate the Strip and rarely go there, we never gamble, because we work hard for our money.

Hahahahah, you should have seen us trying to order a Philly Cheese Steak in this GOD FORSAKEN HELL HOLE, right after we moved! What kind of idiots, do not know what that is? Maybe my expectations were too high.

I don’t regret moving because it was an experience, it has made us stronger, but it has aged us as well. We were also victims of predator lending. We now own a beautiful condo where out of 280 units only 17 are owned the rest are rented out buy the builder. We are basically living in an apartment complex now, the sales office is a leasing office, I am angry and bitter and nothing will change that! I try to let go of the anger but I can not. This was our first home purchase. It ought to be against the law what the builder did to us. The Law here is jacked! Living in a apartment complex where we own a condo unit? What do you think that does to our equity? It is bull @$%# that is what it is! We have no rights forget the CCNRS. We will never purchase a condo ever again. Another lesson learned.

We are packed in like sardines, too close for comfort. Homes have no land you will not have property or peace and quiet, and the associations own you. The apartments are Ghettoish to me, by my standards. Not what I am use to. We didn’t do our research well before we left PA.

We were communicating with the apartment community we chose from PA and they knew when we were arriving here at least two months, in advanced. They knew two weeks in advanced, a day in advanced and two hours in advanced yet when we got here and went in the office to pick up our keys and sign the lease, the property manager was drunk seriously, drunk, and we had all of our stuff with us furniture, cars, my parents and a cat etc. We had no where to stay because at that moment they were changing out the carpet in one apartment and cleaning the carpet in the other. They were not ready for us. We had no choice but to go to another apartment complex and they took $6000 from us in security deposit why? Because we didn’t have a job lined up here. That was our mistake and we paid for that. We ended up moving 4 times before we moved in our own Condo, which was a night mare from the beginning to present.

Finding a job? It was hard before the economy sunk now it will be pretty impossible. Make sure you have money, for at least 6 months, or a job prior to moving.

My mother had 16 years experience in the medical field and it took her two years to be hired by a Hospital. Now she has a great job and I can not ask to uproot her again, so it is difficult to think of leaving my elder parents here and moving. They are glad that at least they do not have to worry about snow.

I don’t believe in the quality of life in Vegas. It is not a place for raising children that is for sure, I do not have children and thank God because I wouldn't raise them here, no way! I have a few friends with children and they are unhappy here as well they are looking to move to take their children out of Vegas before they hit school age.

Once you are here it will be tough to go of course because you just made a long distance trip and you will have to recuperate and regroup and have the money to do it all over again. It is a decision you have to give a lot of thought. We didn’t. We had no one to tell us of their experiences. Experiences are many and unfortunately for us they are mostly bad.

I was laid off of work three weeks ago due to the economic crisis, my husbands work is slow and we are in a short sale. Homes are still over priced and the salaries are not on the same level with the cost of living they are below cost of living. In August there were 22,000 homes under foreclosure, and I am not sure how high it is now. So you are the judge of how Vegas sounds?

I need to have a home on an acre of land at least some where else some where, were we can have peace and quiet. We are looking at somewhere were the cost of living is lower and salaries higher. So far we came up with a posibility in Texas.

We are in search of a better place to live. We are doing our research now. Since we have been here we have experienced nothing but stress and heart ache. This is not the place for us. We have never been this unhappy. This is what we have been through in a nut shell. We can not wait to get out of Vegas. Hope this information has helped you. I wish you luck.
Sorry to hear about your run of bad luck. Unfortunately, this can happen anywhere to anyone who does not do their research properly. It is not an easy pill to swallow. There are few places in the US doing great right now. You are lucky that you do not have children to drag through this quagmire.

I, myself, do not think I would have given $6000!! I would have gone to an efficiency hotel or something before I handed over that kind of dough. Geesh, you could have bought a house! I don't know what area of Vegas you are in, but there are some nice areas. There are some older homes that have more property, but yes, I do agree the builders were greedy and left the property owners with no land and scrunched the homes so tight you may as well be in an apt. Stupid. What a shame. Bet they don't live in a home on top of their neighbors.

60% of people here on drugs? I would like to see where that fact came from. Could be true, but that is alot of people on drugs.

As far as raising kids go, I think that is a matter of opinion. There are many children that graduate and go on to lead very successful lives here. There are worse areas to raise children. There are better. Parenting goes a long way in that arena.

You may not like living here, but from what you say, it is not Las Vegas' fault. It was poor planning and some shady property management. Las Vegas didn't do that.

Good luck to you and I am glad to hear that your parents are doing well. I hate the snow too.

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My husband, myself and my parents, moved to Vegas four years ago. We like the climate, and there are some beautiful spots to live in such as Summerlin near Red Rock, and or Lake Las Vegas, but be prepared to have a pretty penny for those areas. (Prices for homes in that area I believe start at 300,000 to Millions) You want to go mostly North, North West, zip code 89138, 89141, 89135 all good areas, look at Realtor.com see what you can find. Pull up the Las Vegas zip code map on line and take a look at it know where every thing is. Henderson near Seven Hills area is also nice, but pricey. You want to stay clear of areas near the Strip and North East Vegas. The best is as far to the West of the Strip as possible.


I don't disagree with your assessment of the best places to live, but you are off on pricing. As a matter of fact, there are 27 homes under $200,000 just in the 89134 zip code.

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In my own personal experience, I have found Vegas to be pretty nasty, filled with uneducated people, predators, unscrupulous people who cannot wait to take advantage of someone who is, down just to profit off of them and make a buck. The people are narcissistic, selfish, shallow who lie, cheat, rob, and steal. They are snobs. Service poor, restaurants over priced. I have a few friends here but most of them have left Vegas. Geese, I wonder why? It is a known fact that 60% of people who live here are on drugs, we have the gangs and the outlaws, and beggars. Not to mention the drunken a55holes!


When will people realize that you need to back up your claims with stats? Show me one study that shows that 60% of people who live here are on drugs. Completely ridiculous to think that 2 out of 3 people ANYWHERE is on drugs. I personally have met some great people since I moved here. If Vegas is filled with druggie, uneducated predators that are narcissistic and shallow, how did you make any friends out here at all?

By the way, there aren't drugs, alcohol, homelessness, conniving people, fraud, or gangs anywhere else in the United States or even the world. Especially not in Texas.

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In my experience people seem to have no morals, no values, they care more about their Mercedes and their plastic looks rather then helping someone in need. The people discriminate, and the Gov. is pretty corrupt. The Major is disgusting he is always partying and running around with the show girls!


You are hanging out with the wrong group of people. My wife volunteers for my son's school, I am involved with the HUGS Foundation and donate to schools in poverty zones. I will be working the Fireman's Toys for Tots drive. There are many out here that donate their time and money to charity. How about you? What do you do to make the world a better place? My guess is nothing, in which case you should keep your mouth shut about helping others.


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ahahahah, you should have seen us trying to order a Philly Cheese Steak in this GOD FORSAKEN HELL HOLE, right after we moved! What kind of idiots, do not know what that is? Maybe my expectations were too high.


Are you kidding me? I can travel 15 minutes in any direction and find a cheese steak. It may not live up to your Philly standards, but I suppose you should have expected that. Just like I would not go to Philly and expect them to have a decent taco shop or Mexican restaurant.

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I don’t regret moving because it was an experience, it has made us stronger, but it has aged us as well. We were also victims of predator lending. We now own a beautiful condo where out of 280 units only 17 are owned the rest are rented out buy the builder. We are basically living in an apartment complex now, the sales office is a leasing office, I am angry and bitter and nothing will change that! I try to let go of the anger but I can not. This was our first home purchase. It ought to be against the law what the builder did to us. The Law here is jacked! Living in a apartment complex where we own a condo unit? What do you think that does to our equity? It is bull @$%# that is what it is! We have no rights forget the CCNRS. We will never purchase a condo ever again. Another lesson learned.


I don't see how buying a condo in a complex that converted into an apartment complex is predatory lending. Do you know what predatory lending is, or do you feel that you have been wronged because you made the wrong decision about what to buy and just heard the media buzz word? If you truly were a victim of predatory lending, I don't see how you would still be in the condo as you likely would not be able to afford it. Sounds to me like you bought in a new construction or condo conversion without doing your research or thinking about what could happen. That's your bad and noone else's.

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We are packed in like sardines, too close for comfort. Homes have no land you will not have property or peace and quiet, and the associations own you. The apartments are Ghettoish to me, by my standards. Not what I am use to. We didn’t do our research well before we left PA.


Blanket statements do not work. There are plenty of areas that have quite a bit of land, even in the center of town. My home has an almost 8000 sq ft lot, and I could drive two tractor trailors between my home and each of my neighbors. It certainly sounds like you did not do your research before moving here. I hope you do before going to Texas.

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Finding a job? It was hard before the economy sunk now it will be pretty impossible. Make sure you have money, for at least 6 months, or a job prior to moving.
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My mother had 16 years experience in the medical field and it took her two years to be hired by a Hospital. Now she has a great job and I can not ask to uproot her again, so it is difficult to think of leaving my elder parents here and moving. They are glad that at least they do not have to worry about snow.


I can't see why it took your mother two years to get a job in the high demand medical field out here. Perhaps the position she was seeking was a low demand or highly specialized one? Anyway, I have to disagree with your assessment of the job market as well. Before the economy moved downward it was quite easy to get a job out here. I got a job with an excavation company in 1999 with absolutely zero experience. By 2004 I was working in a supervisory position and was in negotiations to buy the company. Opportunity is everywhere for those that are willing to create it and take it.

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I don’t believe in the quality of life in Vegas. It is not a place for raising children that is for sure, I do not have children and thank God because I wouldn't raise them here, no way! I have a few friends with children and they are unhappy here as well they are looking to move to take their children out of Vegas before they hit school age.


Without direct experience raising children in Vegas I don't believe that it's even your place to talk about if it is appropriate to raise kids here or not. I have an 8 year old son and I have zero issues raising him. Aside from the strip, Vegas doesn't have any vices that are not readily available anywhere else in the world.

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Once you are here it will be tough to go of course because you just made a long distance trip and you will have to recuperate and regroup and have the money to do it all over again. It is a decision you have to give a lot of thought. We didn’t. We had no one to tell us of their experiences. Experiences are many and unfortunately for us they are mostly bad.
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I was laid off of work three weeks ago due to the economic crisis, my husbands work is slow and we are in a short sale. Homes are still over priced and the salaries are not on the same level with the cost of living they are below cost of living. In August there were 22,000 homes under foreclosure, and I am not sure how high it is now. So you are the judge of how Vegas sounds?


I am sorry that your experience was not good, but I would chalk that up to your lack of research more so than the city of Las Vegas. Of course it will not be a good fit for everyone, and people all are looking for something different. But if you would have done your research you would have found out that Vegas was not for you before moving out here, purchasing a condo, short selling it and ruining your credit.

BTW, foreclosure filings are at 21,000. These are filings, similar to NODs. These are not completed foreclosures as some people still may have right of redemption and may use Chapter 13 BKs and other sources to redeem. The 21,000 filings do not represent bank owned properties either.

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I need to have a home on an acre of land at least some where else some where, were we can have peace and quiet.
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We are looking at somewhere were the cost of living is lower and salaries higher. So far we came up with a posibility in Texas.

We are in search of a better place to live. We are doing our research now. Since we have been here we have experienced nothing but stress and heart ache. This is not the place for us. We have never been this unhappy. This is what we have been through in a nut shell. We can not wait to get out of Vegas. Hope this information has helped you. I wish you luck.
Again, you should not badmouth Vegas because you did not have the foresight to take a look at the cost of living, the standard of housing, and the median salary in Vegas. Although I find it ironic that you probably moved to Vegas in the middle of the boom, when the cost of living was mich higher, thinking that you were involved in the new gold rush, and are now leaving that Vegas has gotten back to historical norms especially with regard to median salaries vs. median home prices. East Texas is booming though, and everyone knows it. The influx into East Texas is very similar to the Vegas boom, and I would not be surprised if it became over populated and diluted as well. That being said, I wish you luck out there. They may take more kindly to your fanatical, semi-racist views.

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