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Old 03-09-2009, 06:02 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Upstate NY!
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These people still can't get the image they have worked up of Las Vegas as a "BAD" place out of their heads, whatever that is, and Hussein played on that ignorance. All of the above points from saner people are valid. Las Vegas is simply the best place to hold a convention, and conventions have a legitimate business purpose. Besides Las Vegas, I've been to large conventions in NYC, Chicago, Detroit, New Orleans, San Francisco, LA, and Houston, (and even little old Clarksburg, WV) and the others (except Clarksburg) are all more expensive, and don't hold a candle to Las Vegas in amenities, not to mention the weather. Except New Orleans is also a fun place if you don't wonder into the wrong area and get killed. NYC was freezing a**ed cold and we were constantly accosted by hookers at every exit of the hotels. Detroit is a slum and you are always in fear for your life. Chicago is OK but there's nothing to do, and San Francisco is a freak show, although it can be entertaining to watch the freaks, and they do have good sea food there.

But the real point is, if you run a national or multi-national corporation, you simply have to have a location where you can bring everyone in for whatever business reason. Most companies, even Wells Fargo, frowns on spending company money on having a good time at these things. When not doing convention business people are usually free to spend their own money however they want, but in my experience, after an entire day on a convention floor, all most people want to do is have dinner and go to bed. And evening meals are more often than not working dinners.

You people who don't have a clue about conventions should be aware that the more ignorant remarks you make about it the more foolish you sound.
You'll have a tough time trying to convince the rest of the country that trips to Las Vegas are a good deal for taxpayer-paid, bailed-out companies. Get real. Obama should drill this in EVERYTIME a bailed-out company decides to plan outings in LV.
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Old 03-09-2009, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Here and there, you decide.
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buzz you hit it right on...
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Old 03-09-2009, 11:21 PM
 
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You'll have a tough time trying to convince the rest of the country that trips to Las Vegas are a good deal for taxpayer-paid, bailed-out companies. Get real. Obama should drill this in EVERYTIME a bailed-out company decides to plan outings in LV.
I don't think it's Obama's job to be issuing lectures. I'd rather see him focus on running the country and maybe upholding his words that no earmarks go into this new monster bill. The problem is that there were no regulations placed on the bailed out companies in the first place.

Any bailed out company should have had restrictions in place for conventions, bonuses, and any sort of luxury spending. Oh yeah..and any and all CEO's should have been kicked to the curb.

The real crime was to bail out the crooks in the first place.
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Old 03-10-2009, 05:30 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Upstate NY!
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ahhh...a breath of fresh air. good post, lyra33.
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Old 03-10-2009, 08:53 PM
 
Location: downtown Las Vegas
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Let me just say this again. Obama never said not to hold conventions in Vegas. He was discouraging wasteful spending on "junkets" to Vegas and the SuperBowl and the like.

junket:: (1)a trip made by an official at public expense (2): a promotional trip made at another's expense

junket does not equal convention, legitimate business, personal vacation, etc. And Vegas was only used as an example, not specifically saying "never go to Las Vegas, please junket about anywhere else. But God help you, NOT VEGAS!!"
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Old 03-10-2009, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas (Huntridge)
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Let me just say this again. Obama never said not to hold conventions in Vegas. He was discouraging wasteful spending on "junkets" to Vegas and the SuperBowl and the like.

junket:: (1)a trip made by an official at public expense (2): a promotional trip made at another's expense

junket does not equal convention, legitimate business, personal vacation, etc. And Vegas was only used as an example, not specifically saying "never go to Las Vegas, please junket about anywhere else. But God help you, NOT VEGAS!!"
exactly.
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Old 03-10-2009, 11:05 PM
 
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The real problem is that politicians (non-businessmen) don't understand the game. Companies DO NOT spend millions of dollars out of their already-tight budgets on meaningless trips. If a company is going to spend that much money on a trip, you can bet that there is a darn good business-related reason for it. Companies don't like to throw away money. It goes against their bottom-line.

Pretty much all big-budget trips ARE legitimate business. Companies don't just drop a couple million dollars for fun...
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Old 03-11-2009, 12:32 AM
 
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ahhh...a breath of fresh air. good post, lyra33.
Hey thanks JFK!
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