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Old 05-24-2006, 10:22 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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I'm glad to finally see a forum telling about Vegas the way it is! I'm sick of seeing how "affordable" and "nice" and "safe" Vegas is, what a great place to live. That's all a bunch of balony. There is nothing that I can think of that is affordable about Vegas, not the overpriced housing or gas or groceries or car insurance or going out to eat or anything. Not even the buffets anymore.

We moved here 3 years ago from Metro Detroit. Detroit is very dangerous of course, but I can't believe the crime in this city! I agree that they do keep the crime not only out of the national news, but even local news. They might mention something like a Smith's manager at Sahara and Rampart was shot and killed the other night or dead body found in Strip hotel hallway, then you never hear about it again.

We live in the Lakes area, a supposedly "safe" and nice and more affluent area. There's tons of crime! Cars getting broken into and windows busted out, units broken into, a lady showing a condo attacked and raped. And this is in a "nice" area! We had to hire security at our complex b/c we had so many problems in there, and this is an expensive complex.

The days of affordable housing here are totally gone. Just look at the prices per square foot of these ridiculous new high-rise condos, some being advertised for locals. I don't know anyone who could afford or want to buy a condo at $500-$1,000 per square foot. This is not New York City! You can get a tiny house w/ no yard for about $310k. The jobs here in general do not pay well. Unless you know a really great specialty, like nursing or advanced graphic design, so many people apply for jobs that they don't have to pay you well. Pay is 10% below the US average and the cost of living is way above average.

Maybe if you are moving here from a place like CA or Hawaii or somewhere really expensive, the cost of living and low job pay will seem reasonable. But if you're moving from the Midwest or somewhere relatively cheap, you will probably be shocked at not only the high cost of living, but also the horrible drivers, thicker traffic by the week, and the unending crime in even nice areas.

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Old 05-29-2006, 09:56 AM
 
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this was the most provocative city i have ever lived in! you know those news paper machines? well in las vegas they are filled with dirty magazines. also, on the ground they're are millions of cards with women in bikinis on them. bums live between green things on the sides of roads. expect to burn like a baked potatoe and use sun tan lotion and moisturizing lotion every day. GOOD LUCK!
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Old 06-01-2006, 12:54 AM
 
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Default other side of the coin

Take into consideration a few things
a poster stated they have been here 34 or so years and that they are natives etc
well if you ask ANY native of the vegas area or even someone who's been here for 15 + years ,well they are all going to give you a baaad review of this place
long time residents HATE HATE HATE what has happened here,there little slice of heaven is gone....and I am not one to say they are wrong BUT
its not "Dangerous" to live in vegas unless you put yourself out there pretty far, yes N Las Vegas is not someplace I'd want to live, but thats goes with ANY city, theres good and bad..and theres also random incidents as well...Ive been here since 89, and well maybe not a native but Ive seen MAJOR changes and I'm no spokesman for Las Vegas as I'd rather be back east except Its too expensive,too dangerous
too much traffic, too hot/humid too cold to much snow too much rain
cant afford home, cant afford car insurance tooo many people...oh yea state /local taxes
the Vz bridge is what 8 bucks now???? a 3 mile ride?????
oh well I guees thats why I live in Southern Nevada

As someone said Summerlin is safe,Green Valley area is exceptional and for the most part the SE valley is fine, hendersons excellent, even boulder city
YES housing has gone insane,what you bought for 79 grand in 1989 is now fetching 300K+ is the SE area 1500-1800 sq
what you bought for 200K in 2000-2001 is now fetching 500k in Green Valley ,Henderson....2500 sq ft homes, taxes have gone up but are still not even close to back east( NYC, Jersey,or S Fla) my cuz is out from Jersey he told me hes paying 10 grand a year in property tax.....???? my taxes are up now approx 1,400 in Green Valley 2500 sq ft home w/ large yard
guess it depends on where your coming from??? the 500K home in vegas = IN CALIF is easily going for 900K, In Brooklyn ny over a mill...
Car insurance has gone up but I'll pay my 1,500 a year for 2 new cars as oppossed to what I was paying in NY 15 years ago, 1500 didnt cover 6 months on 1 used car and the YES registration fees are ridiculous figure it'll cost you approx 500 bucks to reg a 35,000$ vehicle BUT You get almost all of it back when you do your taxes,
And again as far as crime, sure theres crime, and if you look up the stats
you'll see N Las Vegas is the lions share
facts for green valley and some other areas I noted above are almost non existant
Heres a link, to a site that can compare cities to las vegas
URL removed
pick a city and see what pops up
someone said they were from detroit???? well go to that site and see how detroit stacks up to las vegas....**hint*** detroit dwarfs most categories including car theft by plenty *except* theft and (burglary is close) alot of that is up at the strip or downtown (old lv) people love cashing in their winnings and walking out of a casino/hotel....well thats a baaad idea cause someones usually watching and broke and ready to do you harm

traffic is getting worse for sure, but theres more than a few ways around this valley
coming from nyc I dont consider what we have as traffic...not yet anyway
still get to work in 15 min, 10 miles
Again I'm no salesman for the city of vegas, in fact If I could I'd probably move....but where???? find all the Good things you have and then improve upon that....well I still havent found that place and been able to afford it
I tried I left here for awhile, only to almost go broke down in S Fla with the bugs and humidity to choke the life outta ya, misquiotos the size of B-52's and all sorts of other flying long legged critters
and blue hair for as far as the eye can see, not to metion the hurricanes,crime and overall cost of living down in the sunshine state,still
got family there, they HAVE to leave cause the homeowners insurance is killing then since the hurricanes have picked up past few years
Well vegas we have heat /wind/ and it sux, but you also get 5-6 months of 55-60 degrees, and 105 with 6% humidity is better than 85 degrees and 85% humidity nevermind when the temp is over 90 and humidity is smoldering at 100%
sorry for the rant, i'll get off my soapbox but felt the need to give the orig poster a slim glimmer of light that they seek in vegas
do your homework/research check that crime site (link above)
check the local ABC/NBC/FOX/CBS News websites see whats going on
they have crime stats as well for all the areas
check the schools at URL removed should find a link about neighborhood schools, even have sites that will compare cost of living in city vs city
good luck WHEREVER you decide to call home

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Old 06-24-2006, 05:58 AM
 
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RedWingsFan is spot on with his (her) Vegas assessment. Some of the rudest people on earth live here. High amount of daily traffic accidents because, IMHO, people find themselves taking all kinds of chances when trying to switch lanes or pull onto a street from a strip mall, gas station etc. People would rather block the entrance/exit than stop a few feet back and leave room for you to get so - so people eventually find they have to 'make their own break' or sit forever in the same spot - thus the accident rate is very high - not uncommon to listen to the radio in the AM and hear TONS of accidents, fender-benders etc. and they're reported as common place - I guess because, sadly, they are. I offered to let a Black man use my battery to jump his car in a parking lot and the first comment he made was 'you're not from here are you?' That was about 6 mos. after moving here from Prescott AZ. Be careful walking into a casino - if the guy walking in front of you doesn't let the door slam in your face then you'll most likely trip over the teenagers who use the casino to cut through when going to/from the movie theater. There was a time when NO ONE under 21 could even walk through a casino without an adult and now we find kids roaming all over because the casino's have movie theaters, bowling alleys etc. and they aren't forced to make sure the kids exit/enter only from the outside. Vegas has changed over the years - and while the strip may be more 'hip' and full of distinguished resorts as compared to 30 yrs. ago keep in mind the 'good ole days' of it really being an 'adults playground' are gone forever. Last week I stood and watched a guy sit at a slot for over 5 minutes with his kid who couldn't have been over 10 yrs. old right at his side, within inches of the machine - never did see any security come over to shoosh the kid away from the machine. I can't wait to get back to Arizona - as soon as my job situation changes I'll be gone like the wind.
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Old 07-07-2006, 12:45 AM
 
Location: Born and raised in Las Vegas
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Talking Moving to Las Vegas

You're right, las vegas is a great place to relocate. I see that you were interested about renting here in las vegas, did you know that you can buy a condo or a house for the same price per month of renting an apartment. That's the great thing about vegas. If you need more information please let me know, i would glad to help.
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Old 07-07-2006, 09:17 PM
 
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RedWingsFan is spot on with his (her) Vegas assessment. Some of the rudest people on earth live here. High amount of daily traffic accidents because, IMHO, people find themselves taking all kinds of chances when trying to switch lanes or pull onto a street from a strip mall, gas station etc. People would rather block the entrance/exit than stop a few feet back and leave room for you to get so - so people eventually find they have to 'make their own break' or sit forever in the same spot - thus the accident rate is very high - not uncommon to listen to the radio in the AM and hear TONS of accidents, fender-benders etc. and they're reported as common place - I guess because, sadly, they are. I offered to let a Black man use my battery to jump his car in a parking lot and the first comment he made was 'you're not from here are you?' That was about 6 mos. after moving here from Prescott AZ. Be careful walking into a casino - if the guy walking in front of you doesn't let the door slam in your face then you'll most likely trip over the teenagers who use the casino to cut through when going to/from the movie theater. There was a time when NO ONE under 21 could even walk through a casino without an adult and now we find kids roaming all over because the casino's have movie theaters, bowling alleys etc. and they aren't forced to make sure the kids exit/enter only from the outside. Vegas has changed over the years - and while the strip may be more 'hip' and full of distinguished resorts as compared to 30 yrs. ago keep in mind the 'good ole days' of it really being an 'adults playground' are gone forever. Last week I stood and watched a guy sit at a slot for over 5 minutes with his kid who couldn't have been over 10 yrs. old right at his side, within inches of the machine - never did see any security come over to shoosh the kid away from the machine. I can't wait to get back to Arizona - as soon as my job situation changes I'll be gone like the wind.

Well the hotel areas with Bowling alleys and movie theatres are not off limits to kids its only casino floor that kids need to either leave or be on the move thru the area, And most people complain about being rushed by security when they bring their kids into the casino areas, I guess it depends on what hotel your visiting, most high end hotels Mirage,Wynn etc dont put up with kids hanging around,definately not in the casino area
which hotel were you talking about with the bowling alley, sunset station?
big difference between the mirage and sunset station

Driving around Las Vegas has definately changed for the worse over the years
but its nothing compared to other cities, like NY, Wash Dc or even LA
Same for rude people, but most have come from larger cities and brought their rudeness with them, but I dont consider people rude hereanymore that other cities Ive lived in ,most wont take the time to say a thing to you I consider that a blessing not being rude
Heck some may consider the fact that you needed to point out that the man you helped was a "black man" as oppossed to just some man that needed help
Prescott Az huh? population 50,000? no wonder you hate the traffic in Las Vegas probably why you feel people are rude as well.....geez you may as well be from Mayberry,
You know whats funny, I just researched the population for Prescott Az and
its under 40,000 people living there,whats better yet is that the Black population is 0.5% , so no wonder you felt the need to point out that the man you were nice enough to help was a "black man" , you probably never saw one before
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Old 07-07-2006, 10:24 PM
 
Location: Springfield, Missouri
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I'm surprised by some of the comments which are so vehemently negative about Las Vegas. I lived from 2000-2005 in Henderson/Green Valley near St. Rose Pkwy and Eastern and worked in Summerlin and I never noticed crime. My neighborhood was very middle class with no guards or gates and we never had any problems. I never left my garage door open when I was in the house or backyard, as that would be inviting a home invasion just by chance, but common sense goes a long way no matter where you live. I did not find people in Las Vegas to be rude, but they are guarded, which can come across as rude. You see it in supermarkets, people make attempts to keep from looking at each other, but if you smile, the ice melts immediately. As for driving, well, they are aggressive drivers, very aggressive drivers actually, but they follow a general etiquette just like LA and other metro areas. The traffic can be bad along the 215, especially going into old Henderson, and along the beltway on the western half. I never took the 15 or anything in downtown Las Vegas or behind the Strip unless it was necessary because of the traffic, but much of that is through traffic mixed with local traffic too. Sure the housing has gone through the roof and the market is now falling, but prices in groceries and other staples is no more expensive in Las Vegas than elsewhere, and, there's no state income tax. I loved living in Henderson and I loved Las Vegas. It's still beautiful and still a wonderful place to live...and, contrary to the experiences about rude people, I think that's overstated. It's a transitory population and that lends itself to a guarded nature, but..smiles and friendliness go a long way in Las Vegas too and people immediately warm to such gestures. My guess is the people who find everyone rude are probably seen as such by those they've judged as well.
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Old 08-06-2006, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Cville, IOWA
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Hi...I am very interested in moving to las vegas when i turn 18 in 3 yrs...i was wondering some relatively cheap places to move to? and also what the job scene for an 18-19 yr old kid might be? i have family in LV that say its not a very good place for kids but i like the big city life, not small town nothingness...hopefully las vegas doesnt prove me wrong...!!!!!...and what is the gun law there by the way?
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Old 09-08-2006, 09:50 PM
 
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Talking What your reading is not all true

Hi,

I am a realtor here in Las Vegas and wanted to almost laugh at some of the things I was reading. Las Vegas is not as bad as everyone is stating. I personally do not live in a gated community and I do not belong to an HOA (Home Owner's Association). My home is located in the NW and is only 1/2 block away from a wonderful park where you will see kids of all ages playing, hanging out and riding their bikes.

On the 4th of July you will find many neighborhoods get together and put on their own fireworks, very friendly and neighborly. Just to let you know about crime (true story) one of my clients whom I helped purchase a brand new home in the SW Southern Highlands in a gated community had their car broken into three times within the first few months they moved in. Here I am living in the NW not in a gated community in homes in the mid 300's price range and have never had any problems.

Bad things could happen anywhere but if you are a local and you find a nice area of town to live all you need to do is get to know your neighbors. There are many social clubs to get to know people. Las Vegas has and is experiencing a somewhat uncertain real estate market because we have so many homes on the market (currently over 20K) and only about 1900 buyers. Not good, especially since that is how I make my money.

Jobs, there are jobs but many do not and will not pay enough for you to afford to buy a decent house anymore. The average price home is around 325K in the NW, maybe around 400K to 550K in the SW, 250K on the East side. I know someone who moved here to teach and she has already told me she and her husband will be moving away from here next year because they want to have a home not be renters. Makes since.

If you live here you won't want to go to the strip that much because you would be a local. Coming here for vacation is a lot of fun, living here is a whole different story. It gets so hot in the summers you will always be inside, in the winter you will be too cold to do anything outside as well. I have a pool thank goodness so at least I can go swimming and have BBQ's with friends and neighbors so get a pool if you can if you do end up moving here and buying a house.

Good Luck and keep your options open. Looking for affordability you may want to consider Texas, or the East coast for lower cost of living and the jobs pay you the same. However you won't find the ritz and glitz that could ever compare to Las Vegas.
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Old 09-22-2006, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas
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There sure are a lot of negative comments in this thread. I guess these folks live in the more central areas where more crime is to be expected.

On the perimeter of the valley, the far southwest, the far northwest, Anthem/Green Valley/Henderson, Southern Highlands, Lake Las Vegas, etc. crime is probably about average or better for a medium size city (1.8 million). Summerlin (a good area) has, for some reason, had a lot of grafitti and burglary problems, so it seems to be the exception to the "further away = lower crime" rule. You may want to check other more established sites about experiences living in Las Vegas such as the Review-Journal eForums and Vegas215. It is a good idea to use a variety of sources for information about Las Vegas to get a more complete and informed picture.

When I first moved to Las Vegas six years ago, I also lived in "The Lakes" area for a year. I would not recommend it either. Since buying my house outside the 215 Beltway farther southwest, a mile north of Rhodes Ranch, the difference is like night and day. I have yet to see ANY grafitti in my neighborhood in five years.

7000 people move into the valley every month and about 2000 move out. There are many who love the place, quite a few who hate it, and most of us who recognize a few problems but, on balance, see a lot more good than bad.

I will point out that if one has any type of addiction problem, this is the last place you want to live. There is simply too much temptation and too much freedom to "do your own thing".

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