[myssthyng]

I am a Las Vegas born native. I now live in Florida. I will tell you that everything you have read is true to fact, but above and beyond, we are now making more money and living very nicely compared to when we lived In Vegas. If you want to move somewhere else, you can look the demographics of any city up online. The pay in Nevada for what we do is substantially less than in Florida, but the cost of living is about the same really.

[olecapt]

What an odd list..everybody reading it keep your grain of salt handy.

Las Vegas is a reasonably nice, modern southwestern US city. It has adequate but not exceptional schools. It has a quite reasonable crime rate for a city its size. It has housing that is moderate...not cheap...not expensive...twice the inexpensive midwest...half of Coastal California or Long Island or suburban Washington DC.

People are the same as most places in the SW. Hard to tell suburban Phoenix from Summerlin from Orange County.

It is hot. Some people can't stand that. About 20% of the people who move to Vegas leave within a couple of years over the heat. Many however acclimatize and find it quite nice.

This appears to be a slow list with few inputs. So check around there are others more active.

[MoMark]

Originally Posted by myssthyng

I am a Las Vegas born native. I now live in Florida. I will tell you that everything you have read is true to fact, but above and beyond, we are now making more money and living very nicely compared to when we lived In Vegas. If you want to move somewhere else, you can look the demographics of any city up online. The pay in Nevada for what we do is substantially less than in Florida, but the cost of living is about the same really.

I notice you didn't mention that that cost of living not comparable for affordability in that homeowners in Florida are paying $3-$5000 a year now for homeowners insurance if they can find it, and anyone not homesteaded is paying out the ying yang for property taxes that much or higher. I simply don't believe you.

[a1m1700]

Originally Posted by olecapt

What an odd list..everybody reading it keep your grain of salt handy.

Las Vegas is a reasonably nice, modern southwestern US city. It has adequate but not exceptional schools. It has a quite reasonable crime rate for a city its size. It has housing that is moderate...not cheap...not expensive...twice the inexpensive midwest...half of Coastal California or Long Island or suburban Washington DC.

People are the same as most places in the SW. Hard to tell suburban Phoenix from Summerlin from Orange County.

It is hot. Some people can't stand that. About 20% of the people who move to Vegas leave within a couple of years over the heat. Many however acclimatize and find it quite nice.

This appears to be a slow list with few inputs. So check around there are others more active.

I noticed the difference between suburban Phoenix and that hell hole the first day I moved to Las Vegas and it only took me 1 year to turn around and go back. I can't believe I sent my son to school there.

[olecapt]

Originally Posted by a1m1700

I noticed the difference between suburban Phoenix and that hell hole the first day I moved to Las Vegas and it only took me 1 year to turn around and go back. I can't believe I sent my son to school there.

Phoenix schools are probably a little better than Las Vegas. Los Angeles and San Diego schools are a little worse.

The good schools of Summerlin and Green Valley are competitive with the good suburban schools of Phoenix.

Sorry you had such a bad time but that is how it is. On a couple of other lists we have born and bred Phonexians who describe Phoenix as a total hell hole.

Some of this is clearly in the eye of the beholder.

[a1m1700]

Originally Posted by olecapt

Phoenix schools are probably a little better than Las Vegas. Los Angeles and San Diego schools are a little worse.

The good schools of Summerlin and Green Valley are competitive with the good suburban schools of Phoenix.

Sorry you had such a bad time but that is how it is. On a couple of other lists we have born and bred Phonexians who describe Phoenix as a total hell hole.

Some of this is clearly in the eye of the beholder.

I like Phoenix not Phoenix but Gilbert, but I know many don't. I didn't live in Summerlin or Green Valley I lived on Rainbow and Charleston in Las Vegas and you have to be nuts to want to raise a family there.

[olecapt]

Originally Posted by a1m1700

I like Phoenix not Phoenix but Gilbert, but I know many don't. I didn't live in Summerlin or Green Valley I lived on Rainbow and Charleston in Las Vegas and you have to be nuts to want to raise a family there.

Actually an interesting area...has very high block variability. Prices good for starter homes but every block is different. Move a mile west and it is much nicer and a little more expensive. Three miles and you are into Summerlin.

[dano]

I've lived in both cities - Phoenix (Tempe/Chandler) 18 years and now Vegas (Summerlin) 6 years. I actually like both and agree its hard to tell a Vegas burb from a Phoenix burb. I have, however, noticed some differences in feel, culture, and additude. Phoenix is twice the size which is obvious when you access the freeway system (feels like LA). Phoenix has more of a midwestern/east coast culture as compared to Vegas having more of a California culture. Alot of Phoenix's early growth came from midwesterners and east coasties. Its only been recently that Californians have been relocating to Phoenix. Contrast that with Vegas that receives 30% of its gaming revenue from So. Cal. and recent California transplants that have put Vegas in the big-city leagues. As a result, I find the culture to be more material and image concsious (can you say Hollywood). Although having a larger population, I find Phoenicians a little less image conscious with a more laid-back additude (tea shirts, shorts, flip flops). Anyway, that's my take. Could be wrong.

[olecapt]

Originally Posted by myssthyng

I am a Las Vegas born native. I now live in Florida. I will tell you that everything you have read is true to fact, but above and beyond, we are now making more money and living very nicely compared to when we lived In Vegas. If you want to move somewhere else, you can look the demographics of any city up online. The pay in Nevada for what we do is substantially less than in Florida, but the cost of living is about the same really.

Pass the grain of salt. FL has areas cheaper than Vegas...places like Pensacola and Panama City. It is about a break even on housing costs in Orlando. It has places that are 150% more than Las Vegas ...like Miami and Naples. The other costs in FL are generally greater than in LV. There is some jobs that pay more in FL than in LV. There are jobs in LV that pay more than FL.

And remember in FL you got bugs...real ones...Ever notice that they screen their swimming pools in FL? That is so they can use them...

[VegasResident]

Me Again!

Many different views for sure. I appreciate realtors that show the bright side, but there are real problems here as a result of the growth that is too fast.

We live in the far NW area and have no major crime up here near our house. But one always does not work where they live. I work near downtown.


There a few stolen cars a month, but that is normal all over Vegas as I think it moved into the #1 slot over Modesto for the most cars stolen per capita. We were #2 last year in the US for stolen cars.


We are not gated and live about a mile from the same park I think someone else does.

That being said, overall Vegas is not the place to bring or raise kids by choice. The educational system (barring a few schools) is suffering terribly. They are 400 teachers short this year in Clark County and are recruiting in the Phillipines for new teachers.

A school bus got shot at last week and the bullet went right through the bus. Apparently one gang member was shooting at another one.

Lockdowns at schools due to guns in the area are normal. They just had one this last week when a former student arrived at their old high school with a gun. Clark County School District is 30 police officers short.

Friday night HS football games are instituting safety rules due to the number of fights and shootings that have occurred in the past. Kids have to be from the schools playing. They cannot leave once in the game unless with an adult and they have to wear the clothes that are required during the school day in order to prevent gang style clothing.

The news last week announced the emergence of gangs in Summerlin (TNC?) and they are starting to haunt the trails in Summerlin, which is one of Summerlins big selling points.

There is a reason Nevada won the most dangerous state in the US for crime. Statistically it is true.

Graffitti is never ending. Every time they take it off, they put it up. And for gosh who knows why they never can seem to match the paint so walls everywhere have little boxes of color saying where the graffitti was.

Kids in casinos are getting out of hand since they added the movie theaters, bowling alleys etc to local casinos. They cut in and out of the machines. 5 drunk teens weaved through some machines I was playing at on Saturday and then one just threw up while trying to get to the trash can, spewing it all over the casino floor in a slot machine isle where they should not even be.

Road rage is all the rage.

There are not enough cops to enfroce traffic. Everytime I stop at a red light I wait for a bit before I go on the green since 1-3 cars always runs the lights.