[olecapt]

Originally Posted by Buzz123

Just pointing out to people who may not know that many, if not all, the resorts, such as those built by Steve Wynn like Bellagio, The Mirage, Treasure Island, and Wynn, use recycled gray water for their water features and landscaping so there is no waste of water. They actually have their own waste water treatment plants on the properties. The Muni golf courses use recycled waste water on the grass too. It is grass that uses all the water. As Pat Mulroy has said, if there was no landscaping there would be no water problem. I like to look at grass too, but it doesn't belong here. Probably WE don't belong here either, but I don't look at beautifying the place with oasis-like features as a "sin". It may be a sin to waste water in the desert on grass, especially since it is so hard on our allergies. We need to get rid of grass and sparingly put in drought tolerant plants.

It is more complicated than that. Basically any water supplied by the municipality and evaporated is at least partial waste. That is because SNWA gets a credit for water returned through the sewer system which enables Las Vegas to draw more water from the Colorado.

Any water use that results in evaporation is equally bad or good to the society on that parameter. Pools and lagoons basically evaporate the same amount of water as an equivalent area of grass. It may be decided that they have usefulness to the society that overcomes that loss...but the losses are still equivalent.

And remember Las Vegas exists because of its water and vegetation. They did not come here to pour desert dirt into their trains.

Well owners, which include many of the strip properties, have the right to do anything they want with their water including using it for growing grass or alfalfa. Law of the State of Nevada. In fact their water may be taken away if they don't use it...even if the use is wasteful. Under some situations people heavily overwater crops or grass simply to avoid losing water to the state.

Lake Las Vegas likely wastes one half of one percent of the water of the Las Vegas Valley. Mostly in the Lake. And the water it wastes is drawn from the Colorado. So Lake Las Vegas likely wastes one percent of the water available from the Colorado as the water they draw is not recycled.

It is an interesting question. Should I, or the Mayor, be compelled to give up our lawns so that SNWA can supply new developments? I can see why the developers like that...by why should I or the Mayor.

[Sorcerer68]

Originally Posted by olecapt

Fascinating...I was in two bars in Bellagio and one in Paris one night last week about 9:00 to 11:00...saw not a single hooker. I must go to the wrong bars. I have seen people barf on the strip..I have not seen a single car barf in 11 years here. I must drive on the wrong streets.

Las Vegas certainly sells that "off color" thought. And, under some circumstances, delivers. But the average tourist is pretty much given the opportunity to eat too much, drink too much, gamble too much and spend too much money. Most resist a good part of it. And most go home happy about the whole thing and come back and do it again later.

I probably stay up later than you do. I also worked in the Paris, Bellagio and the Venetian and had 2 jobs at a time and was usually down there 5-6 days a week, 12-14 hours a day. BTW, I saw PLENTY of hookers in the Bellagio and the Paris and I was there from the opening of both casinos. They both had them from day one. The seasoned veterans taught me how to spot them. Go to the "circle bar" in the Venetian and you'll see plenty of hookers in the evenings. Some are really bold and stand in front of the ATM in front of Grand Lux. Not all hookers are obvious enough to be picked out...I worked in restaurants and started to catch on with some coming in with a different guy every night. The most vomiting I saw out of cars was usually around 4am...especially on Paradise and Sahara but LOTS downtown. I've seen TONS of street vomiting just across the street from Caesar's Palace. I actually have some photos. Hilarious. Downtown has the nasty crack hookers too. The pretty ones hang out on the strip and prostitute out of the better strip clubs and casinos. I got quite an education in the 3 years I was there. It's a rough town.

[Sorcerer68]

Originally Posted by Buzz123

Yeah but most of those who are behaving badly are tourists. Las Vegas captalizes on the bad behavior of people from other states. Those from the northeast and Texas are the worst.

Yes they are. Vegas absolutely insists upon it.