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Unread 07-03-2007, 03:46 PM
 
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As some of you already know, I am relocating to Vegas in October. Last month during a visit I went to a couple of job fairs, had some face-to-face interviews, and had a few phone interviews. My resume had my address here in Virginia, and I still have a Virginia number on my cell. I was offered 3 different jobs on the spot, which is still on the table once I get out to Vegas. In a couple of interviews, I was told to get settled first then come back to talk. The phone interviews were quick once it was determined that I wasn't in the area yet.

To the OP, you should be able to get a position right away. Each company will be different in their timetable in hiring you, but I think if you explain to the company that you need a week to get moved from Texas to Vegas, they should be able to accomodate you in your request. I would probably go ahead and settled first then you can concentrate on the job market.
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Unread 07-04-2007, 12:45 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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My son and I were discussing moving to Vegas. I'm 37 years old and am looking for a change and I thought Vegas was a wonderful idea.
I have experience in office administration, clerical, and have worked as a secretary, mostly for Non-Profits. He rebuilds computers and still attends High School.
I was laid off at the beginning of the year, and I have decided that I have never liked my home state of Texas and wish to move.

My question is, "how's the job market?"
Since you were laid off at the beginning of the year I assume that you have exhausted your unemployment benefits? Do you have money to pay for a move to Las Vegas, and to live on for maybe two months? If so come on down. It sounds like you have skills that local employers are practically begging for. If not, no matter what anyone says, you can find a job before you get here. Of course it would be easier if you lived here, but the fact is, the logistics of finding a job make the process longer than most people want to believe.

Yes, this is a "juice" town. It's a carry over style of the old time New Jersey/New York and Chicago gamblers who established the casino industry. I've been hearing it's a juice town, and I've repeated it many times myself, for 43 years. I even lost a job in a casino because the boss owed a favor and had to replace me with a Chicago Mafia chief's former bodyguard. I know this because they gave me a bonus and an apology and told me the straight truth. The only thing is, with all the juice I've had over the years, that was the only job anyone ever juiced me into. All jobs I've ever found I found on my own. And that's the way it is for everyone who finds the job THEY want.

About the shotgun approach of mailing resumes; I'm surprised that Beach08 got any response at all. It isn't usually a very good way to find a job. But since you did get responses and they wanted you to come for an interview, why are you surprised? What did you expect they would want? They are in the drivers seat being the ones who might offer you a job. As such they are the customer. You need to be ready to provide the customer what THEY need. You can't expect them to conform to what YOU need. By sending the resume you are asking for a job and telling them you are ready to go to work. Let me give you some reality; when you are looking for a job, it's not really about you. It's about what they guy who will be paying your salary needs and wants. As far as he is concerned, you don't exist. You are in a state of nonexistence to him. To get out of that condition, it's your job to find out what he needs and wants, and then provide it.

Let me just offer this for all of you who are looking for work so you don't have to take my advice. Buy and read the book, What Color is My Parachute and take the author's advice. Because no matter what advice I give, good or bad, I know you not only won't take it, you will probably throw it back in my face, as you've seen it done here. Why people do that I can only guess is because reality is not what they want to hear when they are unemployed. They want someone to say report here at your convenience and go to work when and if it pleases you. Oh, yes, and be sure to let us know what we are to pay you. But I repeat, finding work is a full time job and it takes a plan and it takes being very, very, flexible, and not at all demanding.

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Unread 07-04-2007, 01:10 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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By the way, this is a brief synopisis of my experience in job hunting. For 32 years I was an executive of various local television stations in four states. I recruited and hired (and fired) dozens of employees. I was also a job seeker many times in my life. The positions that I held, plus personal friendships here in Las Vegas, connected me with a lot of local big wheels. In other words, I had juice. It never did me any good, as every job I ever had I found on my own.

During the only time I've ever seen Las Vegas hit really hard by a downtrend in the economy, I produced a Job-a-thon on Ch. 3 that resulted in over 1200 documented job placements. As a result, an untold number of undocumented placements occured simply because of the improvement that those 1200 jobs created in the economy. On that one project I worked hand in hand with the Employment Security Division of the State of Nevada and many major employers in Nevada . I also worked closely with many movers and shakers such as the governor of Nevada and his staff, and the mayor of Las Vegas.

In 1991 we had another downturn and I went to work for the State of Nevada Employment Security Division myself, where I worked for over thirteen years helping people find jobs.

There is nothing as rewarding as helping someone who is out of work to find a job. There is nothing as frustrating as the way they take their misfortune out on the person trying to help them either. But the reward keeps me going, so I keep sticking my two cents in when ever I can. Sorry.
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Unread 07-04-2007, 08:55 AM
 
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Angry How hard to find a job?

Buzz123,

Obviously, I realize the employer is in the driver seat, What I was stating is that when you resume cleary indicates out-of-state and your cover letter indicates that you are relocating and willing to absorb all cost. The employer still calls and wants an interview the next day....nearly impossible unless you own a private jet, and if you owned a private jet; would probably would not be seeking employment. Its not that one is not ready, logistics take a little time, I am not talking a month, I would think the employer would understand a week to organize the trip, if skills is what an employer is seeking and the resume clearly spikes the interest, a week should be acceptable. If LV employers are not willing to give an out-of state applicant a chance, LV will always be desperate for skillful employees.
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Unread 07-04-2007, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Boulder, CO
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Save up like 10 grand, and just go. You will eventually find a job. Just make sure you can live there for 2+ months and have enough money to get home if it doesnt work.
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Unread 07-04-2007, 11:38 AM
 
Location: SE Michigan
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Buzz123 you hit the nail on the head, I would agree it's all up to the person. I'm looking at moving out there in the next few months, I answered a ad on Craig's list and I'm looking forward to make the move, I own a plastering and painting business here in Michigan I have been in business here for 22 years. Now I have to start all over again but I'm looking forward to it, am I out of my mind at age 50 to start this up? Thanks for your help.
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Unread 07-04-2007, 01:22 PM
 
Location: NW Las Vegas - Lone Mountain
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Default Sure you a crazy...

But it is a good crazy...
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Unread 07-04-2007, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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Buzz123,
I would think the employer would understand a week to organize the trip, if skills is what an employer is seeking and the resume clearly spikes the interest, a week should be acceptable.

If LV employers are not willing to give an out-of state applicant a chance, LV will always be desperate for skillful employees.
Generality statements against Las Vegas employers like that one makes it sound like you are prejudiced against Las Vegas to begin with. That hasn't been my experience with employers who are in need of good employees. But if the position is a low level one then they treat it differently (or indifferently maybe). Like the rest of us, many people in charge of hiring tend to procrastinate and then they end up in a big hurry to get someone. It's not a Las Vegas thing, it's a human thing.

It could also be that you aren't communicating to them well enough that you would need a week's notice to come for an interview. However, why do you need a week? As an employer, I'd look at your unwillingness or unreadiness to jump on a plane tomorrow as not having enough interest in my position, or not being committed to finding a job right away. On the other hand, if you gave me a good reason I'd either not bother to call you if I couldn't wait, or if I could wait I'd try to work out a good time for both of us.

Anyway, as you can see, all of these things are part of the job seeking process and they take a lot of time to handle. But the only one who can handle it is you. The employer doesn't know you and couldn't care less about your problems. All they want is someone to do a job. It is up to you to find someone in the company to make yourself known to, find out what is needed and wanted, and provide it. I've learned the hard way that resumes can't communicate. Only people can do that.

Here's a tip good sales people use. Call the company and ask for the name of the person who does the hiring (or whatever you're interested in). All you want is their name; then hang up. Meantime do some research on them and the company. Learn all you can about them. Wait awhile, then call back and ask for that person by name. When you get them on the phone go into your sales pitch. Find out what they need and tell them why or how you will do that for them.

What kind of job are you looking for? In my case I nearly always paid the expenses of bringing someone in for an interview. Have you asked for travel expenses? Also, take a good look at your post. It is full of errors. That may be just because you were in a hurry and don't consider these posts as being important. But as an employer I'd look at those errors and move on to the next candidate. So I hope your cover letters and resumes are spell checked and proofed.

By the way, did you know that a good cover letter is more important than the resume? And a resume should be short and sweet. If it's too long nobody will read it.
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Unread 07-04-2007, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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But it is a good crazy...
Agreed. I once had a guy at an employment service tell me I couldn't start a new career at age 35 because I was too old. I made him wrong by doing it.
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Unread 07-04-2007, 04:09 PM
 
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Wink Hard to find a job?

Buzz123

I fully understand what you saying and I am committed and willing, the reason I stated a week to organize the trip is mostly due to airlines, not my constraints. As the airlines have significantly cut flights, over-sell, cancel, etc. If I was able to get a ticket for the next day I would be more than willing and I am always willing to attempt a next day ticket if available and time frame allows, as there is a 3 hours time zone difference. I have extensive experience in business administration and health benefit administration, I have held a supervision or manager position for 15+ years, which also entailed hiring staff, so I am familiar with the process. Frustration thats all wanting to be in LV yesterday instead of tomorrow.
Errors are due to being in a hurry and I would never send a cover letter or resume without critique. Thanks for your ideas , I will definitely give the sales pitch a try.
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