Legal Hispanics speak up? (enemy, Mexico, fast food, regular)

[life1]

Stop this undying American GREED & the immigration problem will take care of itself.

[Kele]

Originally Posted by life1

Stop this undying American GREED & the immigration problem will take care of itself.

Blind and deaf one trick pony.

Repeat after me.

The vast majority of Americans are very giving people. They would give the shirt off of their backs to someone in need.

Corporations are greedy. The government is greedy. The American people are not.

[EarthUp]

Originally Posted by life1

Stop this undying American GREED & the immigration problem will take care of itself.

yeah sure, we been waiting for that for 50 years, tell us when.

[life1]

Sure, as an American, I agree with everything you say & as a "working American" I agree even more. My intensions were never to blame individual Americans, per se, as we the working class appear to have no real power over corporate & industrial America. You don't have to take my assurances for any form of value whatsoever, just like I simply don't agree with you on your points of view. I see them as being trivial, however, if not checked would cause more problems then your words are really worth & I think we all understand that.

As long as you continue to dream up & blame a falsehood in the illegal alien & try to use "working America" as the vessel to "downplay" your real intent , these issues will continue to plague us all. It's almost as if between American corporate greed & illegal aliens lies "working class America" left to render judgment on these types of issues.

I am not saying Illegal Aliens are not illegal, hence illegal aliens. What I am saying here, again & again, whether you like it or not, is: STOP AMERICAN GREED & THIS IMMIGRATION ISSUE WILL TAKE CARE OF ITSELF. I ASSURE YOU.

Common sense would dictate this is the way to go. Why would you not support it. Lets face it, the reality of "illegal aliens" is nothing more then the result of undying American GREED. You know it, I know it & so does the world.

All American greed has really done is create this "immigration problem", threw some meat out to "working class America" "divided working class America" & are sitting back watching people like us "go at it". They did this fully predicting that this would happen in this manner. The payoff being "Divide & Conquer'.

Now, if you wouldn't see this, then, it would appear, other issues would be suspiciously afoot. I am a loyal American & because I am a loyal American I have to fully question everything that my fellow Americans do. Just because we are Americans does not mean we choose appropriately every time. Often, in more cases then one wants to admit to, we don't. As someone already stated, "look at Mr. Bush".

Prove to me that American GREED is not at the bottom of all of this mess & I & alot of us like me will become your most loyal followers, I assure you.

Would you care for my assurances now?

Finally, to the individual that said she got the heck beat out of her by Mexicans in Los Angeles just because she was white. I grew up in northern Ohio, where there were no Mexicans, minimal at best & nothing like where I live now. I used to get the schlinitz kicked out of me by white dudes all the time just because I'm Mexican. So, I would say to you; prejudicsm isn't any good anywhere, is it?

I would like to continue to work on these issues as amiably as possible looking forward to a better tomorrow.

GOD BLESS AMERICA

[eaglecall]

And if Americans are acting greedy, what is the reason for that? The answer is, illegal immigrants. Common sense say let's eliminate them from American soil and American greed will take care of itself.

[INeedAChange]

I just don't know how we can come to a rational solution for this problem when talk radio is always stirring the pot and distorting the issue.

[Kele]

Originally Posted by INeedAChange

I just don't know how we can come to a rational solution for this problem when talk radio is always stirring the pot and distorting the issue.

Yeah? Well, all I can say, is THANK GOD they were paying attention. If it weren't for talk radio, most Americans would have slept right through the sham of an Amnesty bill that the Senate tried to slip past Americans. I for one, am grateful to talk radio for its part in "stirring the pot."

Bet you would have liked to have gagged Paul Revere as well, for running his d*mn horse through the street and yelling while you were trying to catch your beauty sleep.

[life1]

I'm glad talk radio "stirs up the pot". That says someone cares & someone is watching. However, the manner in which we show how we care is the compelling factor in this matter.

Eaglecall; your comment Sir/Madam is not only nonsensical it is purely ridiculous. So you would "eliminate illegal immigrants & American greed will take care of itself" That's a slippery road leading nowhere fast. To believe in such a comment is to believe in the practice of futility indeed. I mean, with all due respect Sir / Madam, take a close look at what you have just said & you'll find that all you have actually done is proven the point "at any & all costs" that American greed is the real culprit in this matter. I would ask you "look it over & reconsider".

To include; Sir/Madam, it would appear that your comment would also want to reveal a "hidden agenda" ready to be unleashed at the next opportune time the language presents itself. If this is so, I would ask you; Why, What for? Hidden agendas only create more descension in the ranks, more uncomfortability, more suspiciousness & unease. Why, What for? This is not what you are targetting for, is it?

INeedAChange: You said it buddy, so do I & so do alot of us here. To include radio talk show hosts. I like these guys & gals that speak out on these matters, it makes for good perspectives to be developed on these issues. Nonetheless; I would also insist that these radio talk show hosts not only talk about American greed & its perpetrators but DEMAND that American greed & its perpetrators be brought to American justice immidiately & I assure you, this particular matter will take care of itself with lightening God speed, I promise.

I just saw "wehategringos.com". I am Mexican-American & I can tell you, that is just wrong & I do not support that kind of behavior from either side just like I do not support, endorse or advocate the conclusive result of American greed, illegal aliens. I assure you there are plenty of Mexican-Americans that feel equally bi-latterally on this issue.

When something is just plain wrong, it is simply wrong. No other way to look at it. Why would you look at it any other way? All that would do is create more problems.

Angry & hatefull minds & hearts will never ever win the day. It is said, "the man that raises his fist up first in anger is the man who has stopped thinking". Let cooler heads prevail & most likely cooler heads will give you the desired effects you may be looking for & may even take you to another level if you let it.

I do not support, endorse or advocate angry & hateful Mexicans either just because I'm Mexican too. No Sir, that's not the way the tune is played. I'm an American first. An American that has seen alot of injustices carried out on these people by greedy corporate & industrial America who do not care what you or I say on the matter. Quite frankly, corporate America predicted this would happen & soon enough it also predicted it would again recidivate & relapse back to "business as usual".

It's one of the biggest hoaks played on the Working Class American & no one sees it for what it is & they always label & blame it on something else. How interesting?

If this carries on the way it has, people on both sides will loose there lives & much more because a "class of people or a select few" feel & think that those types of loses would be considered collateral damage & therefore are acceptable loses. They, greedy corporate & industrial America would still not lose anything & would still have control & ultimately still "pull the strings". While we, the working class American, would be left with the anguish of our personal actions gaining nothing for ourselves & relieving them from all responsibility & accountability. Good Americans? Think it over.

I don't believe in amnesty, "just because". I believe you have to earn it & I do believe alot of these people have rightfully won their amnesty & is now rightfully & legally theirs. I know you know that & you know you know that. As I said before, what is right is right, what is wrong is wrong.

I say again, STOP THIS UNDYING CORPORATE & INDUSTRIAL AMERICAN GREED & THIS MATTER WILL TAKE CARE OF ITSELF, I PROMISE YOU.

GOD BLESS AMERICA & ALL ITS PEOPLE. May we see & immplement what is right for our people & the rest of world, whatever that would be, & exercise ourselves accordingly without hate or anger.

[mollies mom]

Originally Posted by life1

I don't believe in amnesty, "just because". I believe you have to earn it & I do believe alot of these people have rightfully won their amnesty & is now rightfully & legally theirs. I know you know that & you know you know that. As I said before, what is right is right, what is wrong is wrong.

I have a question for you life1, what in your opinion have these people done to have earned amnesty? Evaded taxes by working off the books? Taken advantage of social programs for their anchor babies, that by rights should be going to children of legitimate citizens and immigrants? Stealing and using others social security numbers and identities of others in order to obtain employment here? Done military service in conflicted areas? Deprived children in this country legitimately of a quality education by overcrowding schools with children who can't speak the language and requiring that a teacher neglect other students to provide intensive help to them? Raising taxes for property owners to provide more services for them? Or is it just because they have gotten away with it for long enough that they should just be rewarded for that accomplishment? By that train of thought which group is next for the same treatment because what is good for one should be good for all. Do we next tell murderers or bank robbers or rapists that , if you can evade the law for X numbers of years then you're home free? Evade the law and you can do anything you want? I thought this country had laws for a reason or do they only apply to certain people? I don't care how long they have gotten away with being here or how many roots they have now established here, until they enter this country legally from their own country legally they have no reason to expect any American to welcome them here and there should be no crying about how it will tear them apart for them to have to leave here, they knew it was wrong when they came and it didn't stop them or make them think twice about it so they should not expect us to think twice about having our laws upheld. You don't earn amnesty for a life built on an illegal action that has cost others dearly, that illegal action is a disgrace to all who worked hard (and often had to wait many years in their own county after applying) and followed our laws to get here, in effect we would be telling those who obeyed that they are fools. I applaud anyone who comes here legally, they have proven to the citizens of this country that they respect us and want be become one of us,they are the type of person I would prefer as my neighbor and friend, rather than one who has shown so much disrespect for me, my country and the laws it sets forth. I agree that it will be hard on those that could be uprooted from any life they have had here but honestly what should they expect? They knew full well what they were doing was ILLEGAL, what would the procedure be in their own country should the situation be reversed?

[life1]

KELE/WARRIOR WOMAN: I never said or implied American prople are not giving people. I know we are. Forgive me if somehow I said something that made you misinterpret that language, that was not my intent.

However, on a firmer side; now get this straight as this is what I mean: American Corporate & Industrial GREED is what I said & what I mean that is at the bottom of all this immigration mess. No more or no less. You know it, I know it & so does the world. Lets not mince words any longer as it is none-productive & totally unnecessary.

This is no dog & pony show lady, this is real & its happening to you, me & the rest of America. Throwing offenses & insults around does no one any good.

Please, there is no need for you to insult or offend me with this "blind & deaf one trick pony" comment. You force me to say the following: Isn't it obvious that if we eliminate American corporate & industrial greed this immigration problem would most likely take care of itself? I mean, it does not take much to see that from where I'm standing? Why not you?

Mollies Mom: I applaud you as you appear to have a good pulse on the matter.

However; if I'm not mistaken, not once did you say anything or make a referrence to the obviousness of Ameican corporate & industrial greed being the action which resulted in the reaction of illegal aliens. Why Is That? As I said earlier, we can be wrong many times & often we are. We are also allowed to say we made a mistake & correct it the right way.

THERE IS A SAYING THAT SAYS: "Sometimes it's better to cut of a finger to save a hand, & sometimes it better to cut of a hand to save an arm". Isn't this what we would be doing if we cut of American corporate & industrial greed to save our own American hands & arms. I mean why do you think corporate & industrial America goes to other countries to have their products produced by these other people instead of its own people? BECAUSE FINANCIAL & ECONOMIC GREED IS THE #1 ISSUE HERE & NOTHING ELSE. PLEASE TELL ME YOU GET THIS!!!!! & THAT YOU WON'T LIE TO YOURSELF AGAIN. WHAT WOULD BE THE PURPOSE IN THAT?

Come on Mollies Mom, I know you know you see this too? Why fight over it & say or minimize it or continue to blame just one side of the story. That just isn't right.

Reminds me of the Ostrich Story. Have you ever heard it? An ostrich puts its head in a hole in the ground then says "No One Sees Me Now".
OHHHHH g-r-e-a-t, applaud that seneless move, one more time.

I mean, I agree with you, I'd say on all points, but why would you not agree on the obviousness of this greed. I mean, it's only as apparent as all day & all night. Give me a break Mollies Mom.

I say again, whether you like it or not Warrior Woman & anybody else that does not like it: STOP THIS UNDYING CORPORATE & INDUSTRIAL AMERICAN GREED & I ASSURE YOU, THIS IMMIGRATION PROBLEM WILL TAKE CARE OF ITSELF MOST EXPEDITIOUSLY. I PROMISE YOU.

GOD BLESS AMERICA & ALL HER PEOPLE FOR BEING AMERICANS. JUSTICE, TRUTH & LOVE IS WHAT REAL AMERICANS ARE BORN OF. ANY THING ELSE IS BY CONVENIENT & SELF-SERVING CHOICE. DO THE RIGHT THING!!!!