Why do we allow dual citizenship? (marriage, Bill Richardson, immigrants, fence)

[Ozark-Baby]

Originally Posted by chele123

I am American, born of American (military) parents in Scotland. When I applied for a Social Security card I had to reliquish my dual citizenship.

That was the way we used to do things. But these days, anyone and everyone are allowed dual citizenships and I am sorry to those in here who have that, I don't trust anyone who carries dual citizenships to be totally loyal to our country, especially the ones from certain countries, of which I won't mention.

[cousinsal]

Originally Posted by Ozark-Baby

That was the way we used to do things. But these days, anyone and everyone are allowed dual citizenships and I am sorry to those in here who have that, I don't trust anyone who carries dual citizenships to be totally loyal to our country, especially the ones from certain countries, of which I won't mention.

America "allows" dual citizenship, so to speak (we don't ask), but it does not "recognize" dual citizenship when the person is here. They are considered an American when living here. It's very much frowned upon by our government, and if you take the oath to be loyal to America, we don't want you to be also "loyal" to another country.

It's allowed, but not recognized. So, on the American side of it, we don't consider them dual citizens. In the other countries, maybe they do.

[Ozark-Baby]

Originally Posted by cousinsal

America "allows" dual citizenship, so to speak (we don't ask), but it does not "recognize" dual citizenship when the person is here. They are considered an American when living here. It's very much frowned upon by our government, and if you take the oath to be loyal to America, we don't want you to be also "loyal" to another country.

It's allowed, but not recognized. So, on the American side of it, we don't consider them dual citizens. In the other countries, maybe they do.

It really does not matter if they are recognized or not because the facts are that since they have dual citizenships, how in the hell would we know where they are going to stand if we went to war with their home country of which they carry said other citizenship? I know for a fact that most of these new illegals and bunch from SOB would not stand on our side and would be more than willing to kill our citizens to better themselves and the Mexicans of that bunch are loyal to Mexico and not our country.

[RoaminRed]

I'm working on emigrating to Australia. I will have dual citizenship when it's all said and done. Why? Because while I love my country I can't stand what a mess the government has made of it. I love Australia too, and can't imagine any other place I'd rather live if I'm not living in the USA.

I love them both, and I will be citizens of both. I see no conflict of interest in that.

[Hawkeye48]

At the very least, when someone immigrates to the United States and becomes an American ctizen, that person should be required to renounce his past citizenship.

[cousinsal]

Originally Posted by Ozark-Baby

It really does not matter if they are recognized or not because the facts are that since they have dual citizenships, how in the hell would we know where they are going to stand if we went to war with their home country of which they carry said other citizenship? I know for a fact that most of these new illegals and bunch from SOB would not stand on our side and would be more than willing to kill our citizens to better themselves and the Mexicans of that bunch are loyal to Mexico and not our country.

We are not necessarily going to know if they are dual citizens because we assume they are not (when they take the oath). If they are, and that comes out at some point, yes, they could choose to be loyal to their "old" country.

Mexico wants to send their illegals up here, and wants us to make them legal, and become dual citizens. But, we ain't buying. They obviously would not be loyal to the U.S., and Lord knows WHY our government wants to make them legal!!

[Ozark-Baby]

Originally Posted by RoaminRed

I'm working on emigrating to Australia. I will have dual citizenship when it's all said and done. Why? Because while I love my country I can't stand what a mess the government has made of it. I love Australia too, and can't imagine any other place I'd rather live if I'm not living in the USA.

I love them both, and I will be citizens of both. I see no conflict of interest in that.

If some strange thing happened and we went to war with Australia, whose side would you be on?

[RoaminRed]

Originally Posted by Ozark-Baby

If some strange thing happened and we went to war with Australia, whose side would you be on?

Whichever side was in the right, of course.

I consider myself a patriot, and as such I have the duty to stand up and say when I think my government is doing wrong.

My current government is doing grave wrongs, in many places.

[Ozark-Baby]

Originally Posted by RoaminRed

Whichever side was in the right, of course.

I consider myself a patriot, and as such I have the duty to stand up and say when I think my government is doing wrong.

My current government is doing grave wrongs, in many places.

Our government has been doing wrong for many decades now. They will continue to do so unless the people stand up and take their country back.

[malamute]

Originally Posted by Stockholmaren

I'm a dual citizen, and I'm definitely all for it. I know there have been some bills submitted to not permit US citizens to hold multiple citizenships, but fortunately that is not something that is likely to pass. Sweden, where I grew up, didn't allow dual citizenship until around 2001, so people who decided to become citizens in another country had to relinquish their Swedish citizenship. However, with many Swedes living abroad, many people expressed their opinion that they wanted the law to allow dual citizenship, so eventually it was changed. With the US having the policy of not caring if a person has another citizenship except for a few national security concerns, anybody can become a US citizen and keep their old citizenship as long as that country also permits dual citizenship. Many countries such as India still don't permit dual citizenships, so it's a two-way street.

Most dual-citizens are just opportunists. They'll take what they can take from both countries.

People from Greece told me they are careful not to have dual-citizenship because it passes down to their children who can then be obligated to give military service and can be drafted even just visiting.

When military service or paying taxes or having some other kind of responsibility to that country are part of the deal -- it's interesting how quickly the "dual-patriotism" is dropped.