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01-18-2008, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by RoaminRed
Whichever side was in the right, of course.
I consider myself a patriot, and as such I have the duty to stand up and say when I think my government is doing wrong.
My current government is doing grave wrongs, in many places.
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Then why don't you go live and pay your taxes in the country you obviously love more?
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01-19-2008, 02:10 AM
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Ok I can understand why children may have dual citizenship, but adults? It seems like sitting on the fence to me. Why can't they choose one? They can be a resident here, just not a citizen or vice versa.
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Why not have dual citizenship if you can have it as an adult? You can live here and then perhaps, retire to Europe or visit as a citizen. I know people that have lived here for 40 years and own homes in Europe and can still go there and walk in as citizens because they were born there. It's the best of both worlds, really.
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01-19-2008, 03:48 AM
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A better question is why is the place where one is born an issue at all? All this vitriol about where one is born is not the America I know. In America, one's place of birth isn't (and shouldn't) be an issue. Thus is the cause of the absence of nobility and royalty in this country. Hard work and determination are the factors that made America great--nobility and royalty is what made the U.K. great (as a tourist attraction  ).
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01-19-2008, 04:05 AM
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Duel citizenship is a complicated issue. In the U.S., new citizens must relinquish their previous national standing unless that country permits dual citizenship; a person with two citizenships may not be granted security clearance, and a person who acquires foreign citizenship by voluntarily applying for it may lose U.S. citizenship. Most U.S. citizens, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States. Dual nationals may also be required by the foreign country to use its passport to enter and leave that country.
IMO people who move to the US, or out of it, for business or marriage should not have to give up the passport of their birth country.
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01-19-2008, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by ian6479
Duel citizenship is a complicated issue. In the U.S., new citizens must relinquish their previous national standing unless that country permits dual citizenship; a person with two citizenships may not be granted security clearance, and a person who acquires foreign citizenship by voluntarily applying for it may lose U.S. citizenship. Most U.S. citizens, including dual nationals, must use a U.S. passport to enter and leave the United States. Dual nationals may also be required by the foreign country to use its passport to enter and leave that country.
IMO people who move to the US, or out of it, for business or marriage should not have to give up the passport of their birth country.
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That is not completely true of course. Michael Chertoff has dual citizenship with Israel. There have been a number of people who hold dual citizenships and have received, and still receive, security clearances. Look at Bill Richardson, who was running for President. He has dual citizenship. As I said, there are lots of people who have have dual citizenships and they get security clearnaces with no problem at all.
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01-19-2008, 12:14 PM
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No president should ever be a dual citizen. That's extremely dangerous.
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01-19-2008, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by malamute
No president should ever be a dual citizen. That's extremely dangerous.
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I agree. I would also add that no person should be able to hold any political office, even dogcatcher, if they hold dual citizenships of any kind.
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01-19-2008, 07:01 PM
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I agree. I would also add that no person should be able to hold any political office, even dogcatcher, if they hold dual citizenships of any kind.
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To me it's far more dangerous to have compromised patriotism by holding allegience to two or more different nations with dual citizenship than it is to simply have been born in a foreign country which citizenship you renounced -- yet one is disqualified from becoming president with the latter case.
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01-19-2008, 07:47 PM
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I agree. I would also add that no person should be able to hold any political office, even dogcatcher, if they hold dual citizenships of any kind.
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This should even apply at the state level so that an out-of-stater doesn't try to subvert that state and leave a native out of a job.
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01-20-2008, 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Terrapin2212
OTher countries like Mexico, Israel and many Central AMerican countries may allow dual citizenship but we shouldn't. IF someone is also a citizen of another country their US citizenship should be revoekd.
A dog can't serve two masters.
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From what you are trying to say, it makes you lack a point.
Revoking U.S citizenship is not as easy as 1,2,3 there are certain federal laws protecting the person.
Besides it does not make sense as to why there cannot be duel citizenship, this country has the largest influx of immigrants and totally different cultures. Of course the laws about immigration will be different to lets say Switzerland which is completely strict about letting anyone from another country live there.
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Originally Posted by malamute
No president should ever be a dual citizen. That's extremely dangerous.
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I agree with that, ---- when it comes to politics only.
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