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04-17-2012, 04:53 AM
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Location: St Thomas, US Virgin Islands
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Originally Posted by T-310
This individual misrepresentated a material fact upon admission. Thus he committed fraud and is subject to deportation and having his visa cancelled.
Get rid of him. He is a legal nightmare.
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That's an absolutely ridiculous statement since you have no idea at all that he committed any kind of immigration fraud. Unless, that is, you have a crystal ball which divulges all ...
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04-17-2012, 06:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by T-310
This individual misrepresentated a material fact upon admission. Thus he committed fraud and is subject to deportation and having his visa cancelled.
Get rid of him. He is a legal nightmare.
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What do you base this statement on? Do we know if the young couple had planned to get married? Do we know what applications have been filed if any at all? What facts do we have in hand besides some hear-say?
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04-17-2012, 02:52 PM
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Location: Zawaia, Al-Gharb
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Originally Posted by xlroadster
Thanks for the responses so far. I spent last night with my SO to discuss the whole situation and how it doesn't sit well with me. My reasoning was that I didn't think the niece and her BF were being honest about the kind of visa he received, since the following process didn't coincide with someone who would come in on a Tourist Visa.
We think he came in on a Fiancee visa, since some months ago niece asked SO if she could fill out some kind of "Financial Responsibility" form (SO declined). Also, three months ago niece received a piece of mail from USCIS and said her "petition" was approved.
But wait, doesn't a person arriving on a Tourist Visa NOT need a petitioner?
Niece and her BF are currently traveling around the midwest this week since it's spring break for her. They return on Wednesday, and I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt of being honest, so am I out of line by asking to see his passport once he comes home? (my reason for this is that I read the Visa is affixed to the passport).
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Don't put yourself and your SO in the position of harboring an illegal immigrant....and it sounds as if this niece is steering you right to that destination.
Tell 'em: Not legal, not here. And boot him out.
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04-17-2012, 02:54 PM
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Location: Zawaia, Al-Gharb
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Originally Posted by Gungnir
No I don't agree.
I don't think you're looking at this entirely objectively.
You've described someone who's 19 or thereabouts, how much do you think he knows about US immigration, considering he's British? Do you believe he went and researched the visa types just so he could snow you? The fact he's stating he's got a B-2 (which does NOT require a return booking) and it by default lasts for 6 months lends credance to the claim. Most commonly people from the UK come under the VWP. This would mean he did not have a visa, just and entry record, and he's not to know you would know you need a return booking to be eligible for the VWP or he could just tell you to mind your own business. I think you need to step back and regain a little perspective on this.
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Let him move in with you.
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04-17-2012, 02:58 PM
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Location: Zawaia, Al-Gharb
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Originally Posted by xlroadster
I see. So based on your explanation, I have nothing to do with any of this, as this involves Mike, Melissa, and my SO. I'm just the sucker that happened to take them in.
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He is a guest in your home. If he isn't willing to verify the legality of his status in this country by showing you his documents, then he's worn out his welcome.
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04-17-2012, 03:55 PM
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Location: St Thomas, US Virgin Islands
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Originally Posted by kevxu
He is a guest in your home. If he isn't willing to verify the legality of his status in this country by showing you his documents, then he's worn out his welcome.
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And why would that be? The young man in question is not "an illegal immigrant". You know not of what you speak.
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04-17-2012, 08:12 PM
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Who owns the house in which all of you live?
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04-17-2012, 09:11 PM
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Location: Penfield, NY
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I own it. We both pay the mortgage, but the title is under my name.
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04-18-2012, 12:56 AM
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Location: Zawaia, Al-Gharb
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Originally Posted by STT Resident
And why would that be? The young man in question is not "an illegal immigrant". You know not of what you speak.
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He is a foreign guest in someone's home.
The host finds his stories of how and why he is in this country suspicious.
The host has every right in the world to know what his guest's visa status is and to see it.
And the guest has every right to refuse to show it and leave.
It is a matter of finding out what his status is at present, and how long he is entitled to stay in the U.S.
Get it?
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04-18-2012, 04:33 AM
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Location: St Thomas, US Virgin Islands
14,974 posts, read 12,921,651 times
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Originally Posted by kevxu
He is a foreign guest in someone's home.
The host finds his stories of how and why he is in this country suspicious.
The host has every right in the world to know what his guest's visa status is and to see it.
And the guest has every right to refuse to show it and leave.
It is a matter of finding out what his status is at present, and how long he is entitled to stay in the U.S.
Get it?
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I "get" what your opinion is but disagree with you that the young man's status is any business of his host. What next - you go to rent an apartment and before you can sign a lease you have to show proof of citizenship or legal resident status? An employer needs to know an applicant's status because there are severe penalties for hiring someone ineligible to work in the US.
This is purely a domestic matter and has nothing whatsoever to do with "harboring an illegal immigrant" as your fantasy seems to suggest it should be.
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