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You know what, save your BS and don't try and tell me what I've seen first hand. I've worked with over a dozen former residents from the USSR, all of them had brought their extended families here, as did their spouses. So for two people, that can equal a dozen or more people. No, they did not arrive on boats. That was a figure of speech in case it went over you head. They arrived on 747s, and they came in droves. I really don't care what hoops the US government claims exist, what it says on paper and what is reality are two very different things.
In the Bay area they even dig up the dead ones in asia to bring them here for re-burial! In California it isn't so much the ones from the USSR but from alll over asia so maybe it depends on what part of the country you are living in. Regardless, we need to change our laws so that American tax payers don't get sucked into paying for anyone who does not contribute as we have enough of our own with real health problems to care for. In other countries, foreigners can't get in without jobs and an ability to pay for their own health care, so why doesn't the U.S. wake up and smell the coffee? Enough is enough we can't coddle the rest of the world when our own people are in need.
I think you're arguing over nothing. An immigrant who has never paid into SS will not get SS. I think there is a way that an older immigrant can buy Medicare but they won't get it cheap or for free. There are many cases where someone might want to bring their aging parents over to this country so they can care for them.
We're talking about LEGAL immigrants who have a right to be here and they will obviously need some form of health insurance. Don't worry that someone might get a few cents of your tax money. Chances are they're bringing a pension with them that they will spend HERE.
They will get SSI instead. SSI is the social security program for those who never paid into social security. Once the immigrant is retirement age, their age is considered to be a disability and they will live off the taxpayers for the rest of their lives. They only have to be here 5 years to qualify for SSI checks.
As for immigrants wanting to bring in their elderly, it's not so much that they will care for them but they want to have the taxpayers of the USA caring for them. It should be a requirement of the sponsor to provide their immigrants a good health insurance plan for their entire stay in the USA. Elderly immigrants should not be brought in at all if they will require Medicare or Medicaid.
It's generally much much cheaper for these elderly to stay home, many have nationalized health care in their own country, or at least health care is much more affordable for them.
They will get SSI instead. SSI is the social security program for those who never paid into social security. Once the immigrant is retirement age, their age is considered to be a disability and they will live off the taxpayers for the rest of their lives. They only have to be here 5 years to qualify for SSI checks.
As for immigrants wanting to bring in their elderly, it's not so much that they will care for them but they want to have the taxpayers of the USA caring for them. It should be a requirement of the sponsor to provide their immigrants a good health insurance plan for their entire stay in the USA. Elderly immigrants should not be brought in at all if they will require Medicare or Medicaid.
It's generally much much cheaper for these elderly to stay home, many have nationalized health care in their own country, or at least health care is much more affordable for them.
My husband will have been here five years in January. No chance he will be getting SSI though. He has his own retirement pension that he spends over HERE. Maybe the retirees with their own money cancel out the retirees with no money? No one ever asked him if he wanted SS or Medicare either. It's just been pay-pay-pay-pay-pay. Last thing he paid for was to remove the conditions of the Green Card. I think he's paid enough to the government to make up for a few who, for some reason, came legally but didn't have to pay.
They will get SSI instead. SSI is the social security program for those who never paid into social security. Once the immigrant is retirement age, their age is considered to be a disability and they will live off the taxpayers for the rest of their lives. They only have to be here 5 years to qualify for SSI checks.
As for immigrants wanting to bring in their elderly, it's not so much that they will care for them but they want to have the taxpayers of the USA caring for them. It should be a requirement of the sponsor to provide their immigrants a good health insurance plan for their entire stay in the USA. Elderly immigrants should not be brought in at all if they will require Medicare or Medicaid.
It's generally much much cheaper for these elderly to stay home, many have nationalized health care in their own country, or at least health care is much more affordable for them.
As an American I was taught that if you want something you WORK for it. Simple equation: no work = no goodies.
The elderly do require more health care which is why American's should NOT have to pay for them when we have plenty of our own elderly population. It is just fundamentally wrong. If someone doesn't want to leave their elders back home, then why leave to begin with?
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