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Old 07-11-2014, 12:45 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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... It is our government that is favoring Mexicans and other Latinos in our immigration quotas...
That's incorrect. Under the law, there is a maximum number of both family based and employment based permanent resident visas per country of birth. No country can get more than 7% of the alloted total.

That is the reason why the family based category for Mexicans has a cutoff date of February 1, 1994 (meaning, they can only file for permanent resident if their cases were authorized on or BEFORE that date), while the worlwide cutoff date is April 1, 2007.

On the employment side it's similar, except the country that is crazily backlogged is not Mexico, but India.

So no, quotas do not favor Mexico or other Latin American countries.
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Old 07-12-2014, 09:03 AM
 
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That's incorrect. Under the law, there is a maximum number of both family based and employment based permanent resident visas per country of birth. No country can get more than 7% of the alloted total.

That is the reason why the family based category for Mexicans has a cutoff date of February 1, 1994 (meaning, they can only file for permanent resident if their cases were authorized on or BEFORE that date), while the worlwide cutoff date is April 1, 2007.

On the employment side it's similar, except the country that is crazily backlogged is not Mexico, but India.

So no, quotas do not favor Mexico or other Latin American countries.
Nope, it is you that is wrong.

Top 10 legal and illegal immigrant nationalities in the U.S. - OhMyGov News
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Old 07-13-2014, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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However bad illegal immigration by Mexicans is, the large population of illegal immigrants from Mexico makes it harder for legal immigrants from Mexico and Latin America to assimilate. Why bother learning English when everyone around you speaks Spanish already?

Of course, expecting illegal immigrants to assimilate is counterproductive. Do you want illegals to view the U.S. rather than Mexico as their homeland?

There are two solutions to increase assimilation: complete amnesty of illegals, or a drastic reduction in both illegal and legal immigration from Mexico, so that the existing population of legal immigrants from Mexico can socially and economically integrate with the rest of America.
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Old 07-13-2014, 09:53 PM
 
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Why don't Mexicans build up their own country? I mean, really. When I visited Mexico I was astounded at the what I saw was extremely low-quality everything- the infrastructure, building codes, sanitation, gosh- garbage in the streets (diapers, bottles, you name it) the place was dirty and yucky outside the tourist resorts- and even those were lacking in many ways. Even office buildings looked like they were leaning! I mean, come ON, you can't even drink the water there to this day! Now, look at "our" country: great roads, good food (that we have laws in place that prevent things like food poisoning and adulteration) buildings that won't fall on us and wiring in our homes that won't electrocute us. A police force we can TRUST (hey we're eons ahead of most nations in that department)

So why can't Mexicans do the same?? How does a thin line separating El Paso from Mexico (take a Google Maps satellite view- its like comparing the slums of India to Tokyo- such a disparity!)

WE didn't ruin Mexico. The Mexicans have had how many hundreds of years to build their country?? And look what we've accomplished in about 200 years.
A police force we can TRUST (hey we're eons ahead of most nations in that department)

Sometimes it can't be trusted.


the Mexicans have had how many hundreds of years to build their country?? And look what we've accomplished in about 200 years.[/quote]

Because its too damn hot down there to do anything.
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Old 07-14-2014, 03:47 AM
 
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I find it interesting that most common legal immigrants are of Mexican origin even in places like Idaho, Wisconsin, and the Carolinas, which are far away from Mexico. Even in some places closer to Canada than to Mexico, Mexicans are the largest group.
When you present data like that, it can often be misconstrued. For instance a state may be labelled "Mexico" and have a huge majority of immigrants from Mexico, or it could be a tiny plurality.

Even states labelled India only have a plurality of Indians. The next group could only be smaller by a single percentage point.
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Old 07-14-2014, 06:58 AM
 
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However bad illegal immigration by Mexicans is, the large population of illegal immigrants from Mexico makes it harder for legal immigrants from Mexico and Latin America to assimilate. Why bother learning English when everyone around you speaks Spanish already?

Of course, expecting illegal immigrants to assimilate is counterproductive. Do you want illegals to view the U.S. rather than Mexico as their homeland?

There are two solutions to increase assimilation: complete amnesty of illegals, or a drastic reduction in both illegal and legal immigration from Mexico, so that the existing population of legal immigrants from Mexico can socially and economically integrate with the rest of America.
Amnesty for Mexicans here illegally will do nothing to assimilate them. Many here legally already don't assimilate. What we need to do is to secure our border and to remove all the incentives for them to come here illegally. Many if not most of those already here illegally will self-deport. We need to get back to diversifying our legal immigration quotas also instead of favoring one national/ethnic group. That way assimilation occurs rather than colonization.
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Old 07-14-2014, 07:49 AM
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Agricultural and construction. Cheap labor.

Certain liberal groups have also been encouraging illegals to settle here. I remember being at an ex-boyfriends apartment in Columbus and receiving a knock at the door. Two young people asked if there were any non-Americans living in the apartment. They were a door-to-door team sent out to help establish illegals in the country by giving them a type of "Welcome to America" packet full of information and contacts to help them make it here. It was my only encounter with ACORN. This is one reason illegals know how to work the system. They are taught it.
So all those farmers, small business owners, home builders who hire illegals are mostly Liberal, who knew?

After my 30 years in business almost ever contractor I knew was blue collar Republican looking for cheap labor.

Blame everything you don't like on Liberals because it's always their fault.
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Old 07-14-2014, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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Well that says citizens of which country are applying more, but the quota is still 7% of the alloted total per country of birth. Of course, Norweigans, Germans, Swedish and lots of others won't want to come to the US, but that's not a quota or government problem.

http://www.uscis.gov/tools/glossary/country-limit
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Old 07-14-2014, 12:53 PM
 
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Well that says citizens of which country are applying more, but the quota is still 7% of the alloted total per country of birth. Of course, Norweigans, Germans, Swedish and lots of others won't want to come to the US, but that's not a quota or government problem.

Per Country Limit | USCIS
The title of the link I posted reads "the top 10 nationalities "in" the U.S. both legally and illegally" not those applying.
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Old 07-14-2014, 01:53 PM
 
Location: Charlotte, NC
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The title of the link I posted reads "the top 10 nationalities "in" the U.S. both legally and illegally" not those applying.
Guess I missed the part where the government issues quotas for illegal immigration.
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