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Old 09-23-2016, 06:32 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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If you hold American citizenship in such low regard that you would renounce it, you have no business coming back here. Leave, and don't let the door hit you on the way out.
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Old 09-23-2016, 06:41 PM
 
Location: NYC
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All I want is to hold public office and not be penalized for doing so...

Perhaps the issue is more that for certain career tracs being a dual citizen is needlessly burdening?
You cannot have the cake and eat it too.
You have to decide, either keep the dual citizenship or keep the job.
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Old 09-23-2016, 06:50 PM
 
Location: NYC
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"Dual Citizenship" signifies nothing to the DOS, and certainly doesn't confer you special status. You're either a U.S. citizen, or you're not. And it looks like you'll soon be in the "not" column.
Dual citizenship is actually frowned upon, because it signifies allegiance to 2 countries.
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Old 09-23-2016, 07:17 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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Dual citizenship is actually frowned upon, because it signifies allegiance to 2 countries.
By whom and based on what? Cases? Laws?

I will postulate that the Feds publish some words frowning on it...but these do not appear to have any basis in law or cases.
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Old 09-23-2016, 08:04 PM
 
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1. Back when I did apply, I did not hate the US at all, in fact just the opposite, I was ready to jump through any number of hoops just to go on a tour of the US. As I mentioned earlier, I even went all the way to Moscow to get it. But I will not be coming back any time soon.

2. Lots of people from my country routinely go on vacation to Muslim states like the Arab Emirates, Turkey and Egypt. None of them seem to have any problem with visas. And since when do you take Muslim countries as your example? I thought the USA was the land of the free?

3. I go in and out of the EU routinely, and that includes the wealthy Scandinavian countries Sweden and Denmark. Never had any problem with a visa either.
so, then, you have no issues entering those countries. stick your butt in those places then. if you can't enter the US legally, then don't bother whining about when you can even tour the rest of the world that so many in third world countries can only dream of.

and so what if i take muslim countries for example? they are among the countries that are mostly hostile to westerners/foreigners. especially the US and their perceived allies.

and so what of the USA being the land of the free? does that entitle foreigners/non US citizens to just get in/out of the US at will?
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Old 09-23-2016, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Omaha, Nebraska
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By whom and based on what? Cases? Laws?

I will postulate that the Feds publish some words frowning on it...but these do not appear to have any basis in law or cases.
As far as I know, there are no major legal issues with dual citizenship as far as the US is concerned. But when it comes to running for high political offices, I could certainly see it being a campaign-killer if the candidate's foreign citizenship involved a country the US hasn't always gotten along with. It's one thing for a candidate to hold dual US/Canadian citizenship like Ted Cruz. I can't imagine someone holding dual US/Russian, US/Chinese, or US/Iranian citizenship being electable, though. That person would face the same choice the OP is complaining about facing. And for very understandable reasons!

The OP is right: for some career tracks, (especially in politics, national security, and the military) dual citizenship is a liability. He has to decide which matters most to him: freely visiting his family in the States, or holding a government office in Kenya. No matter how much he complains, he can't have both.
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Old 09-23-2016, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Saint John, IN
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It is what it is . . . . maybe they'll change the laws and regulations one day, but what's fair from your perspective doesn't mean a hill of beans.

But you should consult a real immigration lawyer, not some know it all's on a C-D forum.

Mick




Why doesn't your mother just go with you??
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Old 09-23-2016, 08:54 PM
 
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As far as I know, there are no major legal issues with dual citizenship as far as the US is concerned. But when it comes to running for high political offices, I could certainly see it being a campaign-killer if the candidate's foreign citizenship involved a country the US hasn't always gotten along with. It's one thing for a candidate to hold dual US/Canadian citizenship like Ted Cruz. I can't imagine someone holding dual US/Russian, US/Chinese, or US/Iranian citizenship being electable, though. That person would face the same choice the OP is complaining about facing. And for very understandable reasons!

The OP is right: for some career tracks, (especially in politics, national security, and the military) dual citizenship is a liability. He has to decide which matters most to him: freely visiting his family in the States, or holding a government office in Kenya. No matter how much he complains, he can't have both.
EXACTLY THE POINT! i hope the OP has enough education in him to understand and ACCEPT it.
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Old 09-23-2016, 08:56 PM
 
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I did...

Going to school was the better option..

I have no regrets.
since you've said 30k is nothing to think of, then get off the forums, pay that debt off ASAP, and stay the heck out of the US until you have your tourist visa. stop wasting your time here whining about something that should be common sense.
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Old 09-23-2016, 09:05 PM
 
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I have enough education in me to want to understand the full weight of a decision before I make one. Hence, this thread...

Though I think the best advice I've been given so far is that I need to speak to a lawyer.
speak to a lawyer to sue the US for its immigration policies?
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